I'm a bit late to the party here but I thought I'd weigh in. I joined
Beeminder on June 14. I fell in love immediately. I have found the
technology extremely compelling and it is having a huge positive impact on
my life. I am minding 11 goals and I'm using it all the time! I've also
been active on the Uservoice Feedback forum.
I've derailed two goals for a total of $10 so I suppose I'm a paying
customer (haha!). I also just had a support conversation with Bethany about
a Do Less goal of mine that should have derailed but didn't due to a quirk
in the way those goals are calculated.
All that said, I can't see myself ever becoming a Premium user. This is for
two reasons, 1) the types of features offered and 2) paying monthly for a
service that is otherwise 100% event driven.
Starting with #1, the types of Premium features seem to fall into one of
A) Features you could get for free by entering fake data.
B) Features that work around quirks or bugs in the website.
C) Non-technical features.
By A) I mean things like configurable retroratchet, trimming safety buffer,
and free short-circuiting. Entering fake data feels like a cardinal sin.
Beeminder's non-premium business model is entirely predicated on the hope
that some people care about Quantified Self enough to not lie about their
data to avoid derailing. I'm one of those people, but these features being
dangled in my face feel like Beeminder is tempting me into cheating. It
feels backwards from how it ought to be.
By B) I mean things like changing goal URLs. I have a lot of goals whose
URLs I would change because I realized too late that the New Goal page
drops all the text after the first space. I'm not going to pay $16/month to
correct that. If Take a Break or Retroratchet became Premium (per your July
10 post) I would categorize them here, because they make the Road Dial less
clunky. (I would also have never joined Beeminder in the first place had
those been premium features at the time, but that's an aside.)
By C) I mean things like fitness tips or the real-time support. These
actually might be a cool deal, but they're bundled in with all the A) and
B) type stuff.
I'm not sure exactly how to phrase #2, but as a non-premium user I find it
really attractive that Beeminder's cost to me is entirely based on things
that I do or don't do. If I mind all my goals, I pay nothing. If I skip my
workout today, there goes $10. I am just not sure that I would ever be
comfortable with a monthly fee for features that are already implemented
and that I don't want to use all the time. Today I'd like to rename some of
my goal URLs. Tomorrow I'm not going to want to, because I just did.
All of this said, I would be willing to pay Beeminder money outside of
pledges. I would be willing to pay money towards implementing new Beeminder
features (like the backer.app.net campaign for GTBee for Android) if and
only if they then become free. I'd love to see a menu of stuff you folks
might work on and throw cash at it. I might also be willing to pay to
enable or use specific advanced features, like a one-time fee to enable
automatic safety buffer trimming for a particular goal forever.
I know pricing is hard and I certainly am not an expert. But I thought I
would throw you my two cents.
On Friday, July 18, 2014 4:39:02 PM UTC-7, Daniel Reeves wrote:
On a topic slightly related to privacy, I love looking at other people's
public goals and graphs to see how they use Beeminder. I would love it
Beeminder had some kind of show-and-tell page where people could
their goals to be shown to the world. There could be a simple checkbox
the settings that would add the goal to the public listing.
Your wish is our command:
(We actually had that all along but it wasn't exposed; now it is!)
See also: http://showcase.beneills.com/
http://dreev.es -- search://"Daniel Reeves"
Goal tracking + Commitment contracts == http://beeminder.com
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