Possible to set daily goals?

1

In a similar vein, I have a Beeminder goal for doing the cat box three
times per week. That works decently, but I can build up enough margin by
doing it every other day that I can go four or even five if I’m feeling
lazy, which is all the time. It’s not healthy for my cat or nose.

I wouldn’t mind a different sort of goal that’s deliberately inflexible,
having Beeminder’s teeth behind a “cat box every other day without fail”
sort of goal.

Braden

On Thu Jun 26 2014 at 10:02:09 AM, Essentiae essentiae@gmail.com wrote:

I have “Plan Bee” and, although you can specify the buffer left when
retroratcheting, if you enter less than 2, it still won’t actually do less
than 2. Same for safe days. (This is true on ‘Do More’ goals only; the ‘Do
Less’ goals can be retroratcheted down to 0. I think they plan to fix that,
but I definitely don’t want to be speaking for them!) Upgrading the account
will not, in fact, change that.
(Though, I think upgrading the account is still worth it for the custom
goals.)

On 26 June 2014 06:44, Brent Yorgey byorgey@gmail.com wrote:

One more thought: the Bee Lite plan also gives you the ability to specify
how much buffer you are left with after retroratcheting. The default is 2
but you can enter other values. If you’re willing to get the Bee Lite plan
this sounds perfect for your use case.

On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 6:39 AM, Brent Yorgey byorgey@gmail.com wrote:

Yes, I have the Bee Lite plan, but I’ve never adjusted the width of my
roads. I think in order to do that you can convert your goal to a Custom
goal type. However, I don’t think adjusting the width would help you in
any case. Retroratcheting would still leave you with 2 days of buffer. (I
think — I’m actually not really sure how the road width adjustment works.)

On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 8:56 PM, Kenny Yang yangkennyk@gmail.com
wrote:

hmmm. I was looking at the bee lite plan and it says that I can adjust
the yellow brick road width. maybe I could adjust it so that it’s set to 1
day? are you a premium user? can you do that?

On Wednesday, June 25, 2014 8:49:30 PM UTC-4, Brent Yorgey wrote:

It’s a little hackish, but you can enter a negative datapoint to cut
down your safety buffer to whatever you want, and then go from there. I’ve
used that trick a few times in the past, especially for these sorts of “do
something once a day” goals.

On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 8:08 PM, Kenny Yang yangk...@gmail.com
wrote:

I’d like to set a daily goal of writing 750 words a day so I set the
daily rate to be 750.

When I entered my writing for today (800), it gives me 3 days until
derailment. Even with retroratchet, it cuts it down to 2 days until
derailment.

Is it possible to make it so that there’s only 1 day until derailment
so that I’m required to enter 750 everyday?

thanks!

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I’d like to set a daily goal of writing 750 words a day so I set the daily
rate to be 750.

When I entered my writing for today (800), it gives me 3 days until
derailment. Even with retroratchet, it cuts it down to 2 days until
derailment.

Is it possible to make it so that there’s only 1 day until derailment so
that I’m required to enter 750 everyday?

thanks!

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This.
I’ve missed being able to force myself to do something every day. I would
really like to have that again.

Sometimes when I’m trying to just create a habit, I’ll require very little
of myself at first, but I’ll want to be able to require that of myself
every day. If I do better than usual on a given day, though, I end up stuck
with several days of safety and can’t get it down to below 2 days with
retroratcheting or with safe days. I, too, would really like to have that
option back.

Ess

On 25 June 2014 20:08, Kenny Yang yangkennyk@gmail.com wrote:

I’d like to set a daily goal of writing 750 words a day so I set the daily
rate to be 750.

When I entered my writing for today (800), it gives me 3 days until
derailment. Even with retroratchet, it cuts it down to 2 days until
derailment.

Is it possible to make it so that there’s only 1 day until derailment so
that I’m required to enter 750 everyday?

thanks!

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It’s a little hackish, but you can enter a negative datapoint to cut down
your safety buffer to whatever you want, and then go from there. I’ve used
that trick a few times in the past, especially for these sorts of “do
something once a day” goals.

On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 8:08 PM, Kenny Yang yangkennyk@gmail.com wrote:

I’d like to set a daily goal of writing 750 words a day so I set the daily
rate to be 750.

When I entered my writing for today (800), it gives me 3 days until
derailment. Even with retroratchet, it cuts it down to 2 days until
derailment.

Is it possible to make it so that there’s only 1 day until derailment so
that I’m required to enter 750 everyday?

thanks!

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Also, if your goal is 750 words a day, you should check you 750words.com :slight_smile:

On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 5:49 PM, Brent Yorgey byorgey@gmail.com wrote:

It’s a little hackish, but you can enter a negative datapoint to cut down
your safety buffer to whatever you want, and then go from there. I’ve used
that trick a few times in the past, especially for these sorts of “do
something once a day” goals.

On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 8:08 PM, Kenny Yang yangkennyk@gmail.com wrote:

I’d like to set a daily goal of writing 750 words a day so I set the
daily rate to be 750.

When I entered my writing for today (800), it gives me 3 days until
derailment. Even with retroratchet, it cuts it down to 2 days until
derailment.

Is it possible to make it so that there’s only 1 day until derailment so
that I’m required to enter 750 everyday?

thanks!

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hmmm. I was looking at the bee lite plan and it says that I can adjust the
yellow brick road width. maybe I could adjust it so that it’s set to 1 day?
are you a premium user? can you do that?

On Wednesday, June 25, 2014 8:49:30 PM UTC-4, Brent Yorgey wrote:

It’s a little hackish, but you can enter a negative datapoint to cut down
your safety buffer to whatever you want, and then go from there. I’ve used
that trick a few times in the past, especially for these sorts of “do
something once a day” goals.

On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 8:08 PM, Kenny Yang <yangk...@gmail.com
<javascript:>> wrote:

I’d like to set a daily goal of writing 750 words a day so I set the
daily rate to be 750.

When I entered my writing for today (800), it gives me 3 days until
derailment. Even with retroratchet, it cuts it down to 2 days until
derailment.

Is it possible to make it so that there’s only 1 day until derailment so
that I’m required to enter 750 everyday?

thanks!

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That’s what I’m currently using. Just wanted to add a little sting
reinforcement :slight_smile:

On Wednesday, June 25, 2014 8:55:11 PM UTC-4, Erica Edelman wrote:

Also, if your goal is 750 words a day, you should check you 750words.com
:slight_smile:

On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 5:49 PM, Brent Yorgey <byo...@gmail.com
<javascript:>> wrote:

It’s a little hackish, but you can enter a negative datapoint to cut down
your safety buffer to whatever you want, and then go from there. I’ve used
that trick a few times in the past, especially for these sorts of “do
something once a day” goals.

On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 8:08 PM, Kenny Yang <yangk...@gmail.com
<javascript:>> wrote:

I’d like to set a daily goal of writing 750 words a day so I set the
daily rate to be 750.

When I entered my writing for today (800), it gives me 3 days until
derailment. Even with retroratchet, it cuts it down to 2 days until
derailment.

Is it possible to make it so that there’s only 1 day until derailment so
that I’m required to enter 750 everyday?

thanks!

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Yes, I have the Bee Lite plan, but I’ve never adjusted the width of my
roads. I think in order to do that you can convert your goal to a Custom
goal type. However, I don’t think adjusting the width would help you in
any case. Retroratcheting would still leave you with 2 days of buffer. (I
think — I’m actually not really sure how the road width adjustment works.)

On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 8:56 PM, Kenny Yang yangkennyk@gmail.com wrote:

hmmm. I was looking at the bee lite plan and it says that I can adjust the
yellow brick road width. maybe I could adjust it so that it’s set to 1 day?
are you a premium user? can you do that?

On Wednesday, June 25, 2014 8:49:30 PM UTC-4, Brent Yorgey wrote:

It’s a little hackish, but you can enter a negative datapoint to cut down
your safety buffer to whatever you want, and then go from there. I’ve used
that trick a few times in the past, especially for these sorts of “do
something once a day” goals.

On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 8:08 PM, Kenny Yang yangk...@gmail.com wrote:

I’d like to set a daily goal of writing 750 words a day so I set the
daily rate to be 750.

When I entered my writing for today (800), it gives me 3 days until
derailment. Even with retroratchet, it cuts it down to 2 days until
derailment.

Is it possible to make it so that there’s only 1 day until derailment so
that I’m required to enter 750 everyday?

thanks!

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By the way, if your goal is to write every day, instead of making a road
with a daily rate of 750, I suggest making one with a daily rate of 1, and
enter a data point of ‘1’ every time you write more than 750 words. A road
with a rate of 750 means you want to write 750 words per day on average,
which is very different from the way 750words.com works.

On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 8:57 PM, Kenny Yang yangkennyk@gmail.com wrote:

That’s what I’m currently using. Just wanted to add a little sting
reinforcement :slight_smile:

On Wednesday, June 25, 2014 8:55:11 PM UTC-4, Erica Edelman wrote:

Also, if your goal is 750 words a day, you should check you 750words.com
:slight_smile:

On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 5:49 PM, Brent Yorgey byo...@gmail.com wrote:

It’s a little hackish, but you can enter a negative datapoint to cut
down your safety buffer to whatever you want, and then go from there. I’ve
used that trick a few times in the past, especially for these sorts of “do
something once a day” goals.

On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 8:08 PM, Kenny Yang yangk...@gmail.com wrote:

I’d like to set a daily goal of writing 750 words a day so I set the
daily rate to be 750.

When I entered my writing for today (800), it gives me 3 days until
derailment. Even with retroratchet, it cuts it down to 2 days until
derailment.

Is it possible to make it so that there’s only 1 day until derailment
so that I’m required to enter 750 everyday?

thanks!

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One more thought: the Bee Lite plan also gives you the ability to specify
how much buffer you are left with after retroratcheting. The default is 2
but you can enter other values. If you’re willing to get the Bee Lite plan
this sounds perfect for your use case.

On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 6:39 AM, Brent Yorgey byorgey@gmail.com wrote:

Yes, I have the Bee Lite plan, but I’ve never adjusted the width of my
roads. I think in order to do that you can convert your goal to a Custom
goal type. However, I don’t think adjusting the width would help you in
any case. Retroratcheting would still leave you with 2 days of buffer. (I
think — I’m actually not really sure how the road width adjustment works.)

On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 8:56 PM, Kenny Yang yangkennyk@gmail.com wrote:

hmmm. I was looking at the bee lite plan and it says that I can adjust
the yellow brick road width. maybe I could adjust it so that it’s set to 1
day? are you a premium user? can you do that?

On Wednesday, June 25, 2014 8:49:30 PM UTC-4, Brent Yorgey wrote:

It’s a little hackish, but you can enter a negative datapoint to cut
down your safety buffer to whatever you want, and then go from there. I’ve
used that trick a few times in the past, especially for these sorts of “do
something once a day” goals.

On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 8:08 PM, Kenny Yang yangk...@gmail.com wrote:

I’d like to set a daily goal of writing 750 words a day so I set the
daily rate to be 750.

When I entered my writing for today (800), it gives me 3 days until
derailment. Even with retroratchet, it cuts it down to 2 days until
derailment.

Is it possible to make it so that there’s only 1 day until derailment
so that I’m required to enter 750 everyday?

thanks!

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I have “Plan Bee” and, although you can specify the buffer left when
retroratcheting, if you enter less than 2, it still won’t actually do less
than 2. Same for safe days. (This is true on ‘Do More’ goals only; the ‘Do
Less’ goals can be retroratcheted down to 0. I think they plan to fix that,
but I definitely don’t want to be speaking for them!) Upgrading the account
will not, in fact, change that.
(Though, I think upgrading the account is still worth it for the custom
goals.)

On 26 June 2014 06:44, Brent Yorgey byorgey@gmail.com wrote:

One more thought: the Bee Lite plan also gives you the ability to specify
how much buffer you are left with after retroratcheting. The default is 2
but you can enter other values. If you’re willing to get the Bee Lite plan
this sounds perfect for your use case.

On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 6:39 AM, Brent Yorgey byorgey@gmail.com wrote:

Yes, I have the Bee Lite plan, but I’ve never adjusted the width of my
roads. I think in order to do that you can convert your goal to a Custom
goal type. However, I don’t think adjusting the width would help you in
any case. Retroratcheting would still leave you with 2 days of buffer. (I
think — I’m actually not really sure how the road width adjustment works.)

On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 8:56 PM, Kenny Yang yangkennyk@gmail.com wrote:

hmmm. I was looking at the bee lite plan and it says that I can adjust
the yellow brick road width. maybe I could adjust it so that it’s set to 1
day? are you a premium user? can you do that?

On Wednesday, June 25, 2014 8:49:30 PM UTC-4, Brent Yorgey wrote:

It’s a little hackish, but you can enter a negative datapoint to cut
down your safety buffer to whatever you want, and then go from there. I’ve
used that trick a few times in the past, especially for these sorts of “do
something once a day” goals.

On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 8:08 PM, Kenny Yang yangk...@gmail.com wrote:

I’d like to set a daily goal of writing 750 words a day so I set the
daily rate to be 750.

When I entered my writing for today (800), it gives me 3 days until
derailment. Even with retroratchet, it cuts it down to 2 days until
derailment.

Is it possible to make it so that there’s only 1 day until derailment
so that I’m required to enter 750 everyday?

thanks!

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Oh, right, I forgot about this bug. =( Anyway, entering a negative data
point still works, other than the fact that entering fake data feels icky.

On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 10:02 AM, Essentiae essentiae@gmail.com wrote:

I have “Plan Bee” and, although you can specify the buffer left when
retroratcheting, if you enter less than 2, it still won’t actually do less
than 2. Same for safe days. (This is true on ‘Do More’ goals only; the ‘Do
Less’ goals can be retroratcheted down to 0. I think they plan to fix that,
but I definitely don’t want to be speaking for them!) Upgrading the account
will not, in fact, change that.
(Though, I think upgrading the account is still worth it for the custom
goals.)

On 26 June 2014 06:44, Brent Yorgey byorgey@gmail.com wrote:

One more thought: the Bee Lite plan also gives you the ability to specify
how much buffer you are left with after retroratcheting. The default is 2
but you can enter other values. If you’re willing to get the Bee Lite plan
this sounds perfect for your use case.

On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 6:39 AM, Brent Yorgey byorgey@gmail.com wrote:

Yes, I have the Bee Lite plan, but I’ve never adjusted the width of my
roads. I think in order to do that you can convert your goal to a Custom
goal type. However, I don’t think adjusting the width would help you in
any case. Retroratcheting would still leave you with 2 days of buffer. (I
think — I’m actually not really sure how the road width adjustment works.)

On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 8:56 PM, Kenny Yang yangkennyk@gmail.com
wrote:

hmmm. I was looking at the bee lite plan and it says that I can adjust
the yellow brick road width. maybe I could adjust it so that it’s set to 1
day? are you a premium user? can you do that?

On Wednesday, June 25, 2014 8:49:30 PM UTC-4, Brent Yorgey wrote:

It’s a little hackish, but you can enter a negative datapoint to cut
down your safety buffer to whatever you want, and then go from there. I’ve
used that trick a few times in the past, especially for these sorts of “do
something once a day” goals.

On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 8:08 PM, Kenny Yang yangk...@gmail.com
wrote:

I’d like to set a daily goal of writing 750 words a day so I set the
daily rate to be 750.

When I entered my writing for today (800), it gives me 3 days until
derailment. Even with retroratchet, it cuts it down to 2 days until
derailment.

Is it possible to make it so that there’s only 1 day until derailment
so that I’m required to enter 750 everyday?

thanks!

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When I have a situation like this (goal is less frequent than once a day,
and I don’t want to wait much longer than the road dial average between
times I do it), if I do end up doing a goal much earlier than the deadline,
I like to retroratchet just before entering the new datapoint. That way I
never have to do the goal more frequently than is defined in the road dial,
and I still can’t build up a margin to go significantly longer than the
average amount of time needed between data points.

On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 5:11 PM, Braden Shepherdson <
braden.shepherdson@gmail.com> wrote:

In a similar vein, I have a Beeminder goal for doing the cat box three
times per week. That works decently, but I can build up enough margin by
doing it every other day that I can go four or even five if I’m feeling
lazy, which is all the time. It’s not healthy for my cat or nose.

I wouldn’t mind a different sort of goal that’s deliberately inflexible,
having Beeminder’s teeth behind a “cat box every other day without fail”
sort of goal.

Braden

On Thu Jun 26 2014 at 10:02:09 AM, Essentiae essentiae@gmail.com wrote:

I have “Plan Bee” and, although you can specify the buffer left when
retroratcheting, if you enter less than 2, it still won’t actually do less
than 2. Same for safe days. (This is true on ‘Do More’ goals only; the ‘Do
Less’ goals can be retroratcheted down to 0. I think they plan to fix that,
but I definitely don’t want to be speaking for them!) Upgrading the account
will not, in fact, change that.
(Though, I think upgrading the account is still worth it for the custom
goals.)

On 26 June 2014 06:44, Brent Yorgey byorgey@gmail.com wrote:

One more thought: the Bee Lite plan also gives you the ability to
specify how much buffer you are left with after retroratcheting. The
default is 2 but you can enter other values. If you’re willing to get the
Bee Lite plan this sounds perfect for your use case.

On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 6:39 AM, Brent Yorgey byorgey@gmail.com wrote:

Yes, I have the Bee Lite plan, but I’ve never adjusted the width of my
roads. I think in order to do that you can convert your goal to a Custom
goal type. However, I don’t think adjusting the width would help you in
any case. Retroratcheting would still leave you with 2 days of buffer. (I
think — I’m actually not really sure how the road width adjustment works.)

On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 8:56 PM, Kenny Yang yangkennyk@gmail.com
wrote:

hmmm. I was looking at the bee lite plan and it says that I can adjust
the yellow brick road width. maybe I could adjust it so that it’s set to 1
day? are you a premium user? can you do that?

On Wednesday, June 25, 2014 8:49:30 PM UTC-4, Brent Yorgey wrote:

It’s a little hackish, but you can enter a negative datapoint to cut
down your safety buffer to whatever you want, and then go from there. I’ve
used that trick a few times in the past, especially for these sorts of “do
something once a day” goals.

On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 8:08 PM, Kenny Yang yangk...@gmail.com
wrote:

I’d like to set a daily goal of writing 750 words a day so I set the
daily rate to be 750.

When I entered my writing for today (800), it gives me 3 days until
derailment. Even with retroratchet, it cuts it down to 2 days until
derailment.

Is it possible to make it so that there’s only 1 day until
derailment so that I’m required to enter 750 everyday?

thanks!

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I had it set up that way at first but wanted to be able to see how many
words I was writing each day and eventually change my goal to 800/day
900/day 1000/day etc. Sounds like there’s no way to do that currently
though right?

On Thursday, June 26, 2014 6:41:30 AM UTC-4, Brent Yorgey wrote:

By the way, if your goal is to write every day, instead of making a road
with a daily rate of 750, I suggest making one with a daily rate of 1, and
enter a data point of ‘1’ every time you write more than 750 words. A road
with a rate of 750 means you want to write 750 words per day on average,
which is very different from the way 750words.com works.

On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 8:57 PM, Kenny Yang <yangk...@gmail.com
<javascript:>> wrote:

That’s what I’m currently using. Just wanted to add a little sting
reinforcement :slight_smile:

On Wednesday, June 25, 2014 8:55:11 PM UTC-4, Erica Edelman wrote:

Also, if your goal is 750 words a day, you should check you 750words.com
:slight_smile:

On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 5:49 PM, Brent Yorgey byo...@gmail.com wrote:

It’s a little hackish, but you can enter a negative datapoint to cut
down your safety buffer to whatever you want, and then go from there. I’ve
used that trick a few times in the past, especially for these sorts of “do
something once a day” goals.

On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 8:08 PM, Kenny Yang yangk...@gmail.com wrote:

I’d like to set a daily goal of writing 750 words a day so I set the
daily rate to be 750.

When I entered my writing for today (800), it gives me 3 days until
derailment. Even with retroratchet, it cuts it down to 2 days until
derailment.

Is it possible to make it so that there’s only 1 day until derailment
so that I’m required to enter 750 everyday?

thanks!

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Wait, that will be super sad if you have to switch to lower-fidelity
metric just to work around our insufficiently harsh retroratcheting!
Maybe stand by while we see if we can fix that this weekend?

On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 9:57 AM, Kenny Yang yangkennyk@gmail.com wrote:

I had it set up that way at first but wanted to be able to see how many
words I was writing each day and eventually change my goal to 800/day
900/day 1000/day etc. Sounds like there’s no way to do that currently though
right?

On Thursday, June 26, 2014 6:41:30 AM UTC-4, Brent Yorgey wrote:

By the way, if your goal is to write every day, instead of making a road
with a daily rate of 750, I suggest making one with a daily rate of 1, and
enter a data point of ‘1’ every time you write more than 750 words. A road
with a rate of 750 means you want to write 750 words per day on average,
which is very different from the way 750words.com works.

On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 8:57 PM, Kenny Yang yangk...@gmail.com wrote:

That’s what I’m currently using. Just wanted to add a little sting
reinforcement :slight_smile:

On Wednesday, June 25, 2014 8:55:11 PM UTC-4, Erica Edelman wrote:

Also, if your goal is 750 words a day, you should check you 750words.com
:slight_smile:

On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 5:49 PM, Brent Yorgey byo...@gmail.com wrote:

It’s a little hackish, but you can enter a negative datapoint to cut
down your safety buffer to whatever you want, and then go from there. I’ve
used that trick a few times in the past, especially for these sorts of “do
something once a day” goals.

On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 8:08 PM, Kenny Yang yangk...@gmail.com wrote:

I’d like to set a daily goal of writing 750 words a day so I set the
daily rate to be 750.

When I entered my writing for today (800), it gives me 3 days until
derailment. Even with retroratchet, it cuts it down to 2 days until
derailment.

Is it possible to make it so that there’s only 1 day until derailment
so that I’m required to enter 750 everyday?

thanks!

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Ugh, I have this problem and keep poking the beeminder people to fix it :confused:
I want to enforce a minimum walk at least 7000 steps a day goal.

(I do have an upgraded beeminder account)
Hey Beeminder people! I love you….but I’d love you more if you changed this for me :wink:

-Jolly

From: akratics@googlegroups.com [mailto:akratics@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Braden Shepherdson
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2014 7:12 AM
To: akratics@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Possible to set daily goals?

In a similar vein, I have a Beeminder goal for doing the cat box three times per week. That works decently, but I can build up enough margin by doing it every other day that I can go four or even five if I’m feeling lazy, which is all the time. It’s not healthy for my cat or nose.

I wouldn’t mind a different sort of goal that’s deliberately inflexible, having Beeminder’s teeth behind a “cat box every other day without fail” sort of goal.

Braden

On Thu Jun 26 2014 at 10:02:09 AM, Essentiae <essentiae@gmail.commailto:essentiae@gmail.com> wrote:
I have “Plan Bee” and, although you can specify the buffer left when retroratcheting, if you enter less than 2, it still won’t actually do less than 2. Same for safe days. (This is true on ‘Do More’ goals only; the ‘Do Less’ goals can be retroratcheted down to 0. I think they plan to fix that, but I definitely don’t want to be speaking for them!) Upgrading the account will not, in fact, change that.
(Though, I think upgrading the account is still worth it for the custom goals.)

On 26 June 2014 06:44, Brent Yorgey <byorgey@gmail.commailto:byorgey@gmail.com> wrote:
One more thought: the Bee Lite plan also gives you the ability to specify how much buffer you are left with after retroratcheting. The default is 2 but you can enter other values. If you’re willing to get the Bee Lite plan this sounds perfect for your use case.

On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 6:39 AM, Brent Yorgey <byorgey@gmail.commailto:byorgey@gmail.com> wrote:
Yes, I have the Bee Lite plan, but I’ve never adjusted the width of my roads. I think in order to do that you can convert your goal to a Custom goal type. However, I don’t think adjusting the width would help you in any case. Retroratcheting would still leave you with 2 days of buffer. (I think — I’m actually not really sure how the road width adjustment works.)

On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 8:56 PM, Kenny Yang <yangkennyk@gmail.commailto:yangkennyk@gmail.com> wrote:
hmmm. I was looking at the bee lite plan and it says that I can adjust the yellow brick road width. maybe I could adjust it so that it’s set to 1 day? are you a premium user? can you do that?

On Wednesday, June 25, 2014 8:49:30 PM UTC-4, Brent Yorgey wrote:
It’s a little hackish, but you can enter a negative datapoint to cut down your safety buffer to whatever you want, and then go from there. I’ve used that trick a few times in the past, especially for these sorts of “do something once a day” goals.

On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 8:08 PM, Kenny Yang <yangk...@gmail.commailto:yangk...@gmail.com> wrote:
I’d like to set a daily goal of writing 750 words a day so I set the daily rate to be 750.

When I entered my writing for today (800), it gives me 3 days until derailment. Even with retroratchet, it cuts it down to 2 days until derailment.

Is it possible to make it so that there’s only 1 day until derailment so that I’m required to enter 750 everyday?

thanks!

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I shall contribute additional love with jolly if daily minimums feature is
added :slight_smile:

On Friday, June 27, 2014 1:29:47 PM UTC-4, Jolly wrote:

Ugh, I have this problem and keep poking the beeminder people to fix it
:confused:

I want to enforce a minimum walk at least 7000 steps a day goal.

(I do have an upgraded beeminder account)

Hey Beeminder people! I love you….but I’d love you more if you changed
this for me :wink:

-Jolly

From: akra...@googlegroups.com <javascript:> [mailto:
akra...@googlegroups.com <javascript:>] *On Behalf Of *Braden Shepherdson
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2014 7:12 AM
To: akra...@googlegroups.com <javascript:>
Subject: Re: Possible to set daily goals?

In a similar vein, I have a Beeminder goal for doing the cat box three
times per week. That works decently, but I can build up enough margin by
doing it every other day that I can go four or even five if I’m feeling
lazy, which is all the time. It’s not healthy for my cat or nose.

I wouldn’t mind a different sort of goal that’s deliberately inflexible,
having Beeminder’s teeth behind a “cat box every other day without fail”
sort of goal.

Braden

On Thu Jun 26 2014 at 10:02:09 AM, Essentiae <esse...@gmail.com
<javascript:>> wrote:

I have “Plan Bee” and, although you can specify the buffer left when
retroratcheting, if you enter less than 2, it still won’t actually do less
than 2. Same for safe days. (This is true on ‘Do More’ goals only; the ‘Do
Less’ goals can be retroratcheted down to 0. I think they plan to fix that,
but I definitely don’t want to be speaking for them!) Upgrading the account
will not, in fact, change that.

(Though, I think upgrading the account is still worth it for the custom
goals.)

On 26 June 2014 06:44, Brent Yorgey <byo...@gmail.com <javascript:>>
wrote:

One more thought: the Bee Lite plan also gives you the ability to
specify how much buffer you are left with after retroratcheting. The
default is 2 but you can enter other values. If you’re willing to get the
Bee Lite plan this sounds perfect for your use case.

On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 6:39 AM, Brent Yorgey <byo...@gmail.com
<javascript:>> wrote:

Yes, I have the Bee Lite plan, but I’ve never adjusted the width of my
roads. I think in order to do that you can convert your goal to a Custom
goal type. However, I don’t think adjusting the width would help you in
any case. Retroratcheting would still leave you with 2 days of buffer. (I
think — I’m actually not really sure how the road width adjustment works.)

On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 8:56 PM, Kenny Yang <yangk...@gmail.com
<javascript:>> wrote:

hmmm. I was looking at the bee lite plan and it says that I can adjust
the yellow brick road width. maybe I could adjust it so that it’s set to 1
day? are you a premium user? can you do that?

On Wednesday, June 25, 2014 8:49:30 PM UTC-4, Brent Yorgey wrote:

It’s a little hackish, but you can enter a negative datapoint to cut
down your safety buffer to whatever you want, and then go from there. I’ve
used that trick a few times in the past, especially for these sorts of “do
something once a day” goals.

On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 8:08 PM, Kenny Yang yangk...@gmail.com wrote:

I’d like to set a daily goal of writing 750 words a day so I set the
daily rate to be 750.

When I entered my writing for today (800), it gives me 3 days until
derailment. Even with retroratchet, it cuts it down to 2 days until
derailment.

Is it possible to make it so that there’s only 1 day until derailment so
that I’m required to enter 750 everyday?

thanks!

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Jumping on the bandwagon. Would really like this feature
On Jun 26, 2014 12:57 PM, “Kenny Yang” yangkennyk@gmail.com wrote:

I had it set up that way at first but wanted to be able to see how many
words I was writing each day and eventually change my goal to 800/day
900/day 1000/day etc. Sounds like there’s no way to do that currently
though right?

On Thursday, June 26, 2014 6:41:30 AM UTC-4, Brent Yorgey wrote:

By the way, if your goal is to write every day, instead of making a road
with a daily rate of 750, I suggest making one with a daily rate of 1, and
enter a data point of ‘1’ every time you write more than 750 words. A road
with a rate of 750 means you want to write 750 words per day on average,
which is very different from the way 750words.com works.

On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 8:57 PM, Kenny Yang yangk...@gmail.com wrote:

That’s what I’m currently using. Just wanted to add a little sting
reinforcement :slight_smile:

On Wednesday, June 25, 2014 8:55:11 PM UTC-4, Erica Edelman wrote:

Also, if your goal is 750 words a day, you should check you
750words.com :slight_smile:

On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 5:49 PM, Brent Yorgey byo...@gmail.com wrote:

It’s a little hackish, but you can enter a negative datapoint to cut
down your safety buffer to whatever you want, and then go from there. I’ve
used that trick a few times in the past, especially for these sorts of “do
something once a day” goals.

On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 8:08 PM, Kenny Yang yangk...@gmail.com
wrote:

I’d like to set a daily goal of writing 750 words a day so I set the
daily rate to be 750.

When I entered my writing for today (800), it gives me 3 days until
derailment. Even with retroratchet, it cuts it down to 2 days until
derailment.

Is it possible to make it so that there’s only 1 day until derailment
so that I’m required to enter 750 everyday?

thanks!

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maybe something like a configurable yellow brick road with max/min values
on the road (max 1 day or something)

On Friday, June 27, 2014 2:32:02 PM UTC-4, Jake Jenkins wrote:

Jumping on the bandwagon. Would really like this feature
On Jun 26, 2014 12:57 PM, “Kenny Yang” <yangk...@gmail.com <javascript:>>
wrote:

I had it set up that way at first but wanted to be able to see how many
words I was writing each day and eventually change my goal to 800/day
900/day 1000/day etc. Sounds like there’s no way to do that currently
though right?

On Thursday, June 26, 2014 6:41:30 AM UTC-4, Brent Yorgey wrote:

By the way, if your goal is to write every day, instead of making a road
with a daily rate of 750, I suggest making one with a daily rate of 1, and
enter a data point of ‘1’ every time you write more than 750 words. A road
with a rate of 750 means you want to write 750 words per day on average,
which is very different from the way 750words.com works.

On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 8:57 PM, Kenny Yang yangk...@gmail.com wrote:

That’s what I’m currently using. Just wanted to add a little sting
reinforcement :slight_smile:

On Wednesday, June 25, 2014 8:55:11 PM UTC-4, Erica Edelman wrote:

Also, if your goal is 750 words a day, you should check you
750words.com :slight_smile:

On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 5:49 PM, Brent Yorgey byo...@gmail.com
wrote:

It’s a little hackish, but you can enter a negative datapoint to cut
down your safety buffer to whatever you want, and then go from there. I’ve
used that trick a few times in the past, especially for these sorts of “do
something once a day” goals.

On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 8:08 PM, Kenny Yang yangk...@gmail.com
wrote:

I’d like to set a daily goal of writing 750 words a day so I set the
daily rate to be 750.

When I entered my writing for today (800), it gives me 3 days
until derailment. Even with retroratchet, it cuts it down to 2 days until
derailment.

Is it possible to make it so that there’s only 1 day until
derailment so that I’m required to enter 750 everyday?

thanks!

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That would be great. No longer being able to have 0 safe days mean “0 safe
days” was a real bummer. It would be great to have that working again.

On Thursday, June 26, 2014 1:38:26 PM UTC-4, Daniel Reeves wrote:

Wait, that will be super sad if you have to switch to lower-fidelity
metric just to work around our insufficiently harsh retroratcheting!
Maybe stand by while we see if we can fix that this weekend?

On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 9:57 AM, Kenny Yang <yangk...@gmail.com
<javascript:>> wrote:

I had it set up that way at first but wanted to be able to see how many
words I was writing each day and eventually change my goal to 800/day
900/day 1000/day etc. Sounds like there’s no way to do that currently
though
right?

On Thursday, June 26, 2014 6:41:30 AM UTC-4, Brent Yorgey wrote:

By the way, if your goal is to write every day, instead of making a
road
with a daily rate of 750, I suggest making one with a daily rate of 1,
and
enter a data point of ‘1’ every time you write more than 750 words. A
road
with a rate of 750 means you want to write 750 words per day on
average,
which is very different from the way 750words.com works.

On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 8:57 PM, Kenny Yang yangk...@gmail.com
wrote:

That’s what I’m currently using. Just wanted to add a little sting
reinforcement :slight_smile:

On Wednesday, June 25, 2014 8:55:11 PM UTC-4, Erica Edelman wrote:

Also, if your goal is 750 words a day, you should check you
750words.com
:slight_smile:

On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 5:49 PM, Brent Yorgey byo...@gmail.com
wrote:

It’s a little hackish, but you can enter a negative datapoint to cut
down your safety buffer to whatever you want, and then go from
there. I’ve
used that trick a few times in the past, especially for these sorts
of “do
something once a day” goals.

On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 8:08 PM, Kenny Yang yangk...@gmail.com
wrote:

I’d like to set a daily goal of writing 750 words a day so I set
the
daily rate to be 750.

When I entered my writing for today (800), it gives me 3 days until
derailment. Even with retroratchet, it cuts it down to 2 days until
derailment.

Is it possible to make it so that there’s only 1 day until
derailment
so that I’m required to enter 750 everyday?

thanks!

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