# Akrasia Horizon: One Size Fits All?

**URL:** <https://forum.beeminder.com/t/akrasia-horizon-one-size-fits-all/5069>\
**Category:** Akrasia\
**Created:** [March 7, 2019, 5:58pm UTC](https://forum.beeminder.com/t/akrasia-horizon-one-size-fits-all/5069 "2019-03-07T17:58:36Z")\
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**Author:** ![phi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.beeminder.com/phi/32/2586_2.png) [@phi](https://forum.beeminder.com/u/phi)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2019, 5:58pm UTC](https://forum.beeminder.com/t/akrasia-horizon-one-size-fits-all/5069/1 "2019-03-07T17:58:37Z")

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This started as a question to support but I eventually decided the forum might be a good place for this too:

I am not perfectly happy with the akrasia horizon being 1 week. From what I found it stems from this blog post in 2011:

> **[The Road Dial and the Akrasia Horizon](https://blog.beeminder.com/dial/)**
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> Previously on the Beeminder Blog… How can we set up a commitment contract with minimal risk that we’ll regret it? It’s a tricky balancing act. You want something solid enough that you’ve truly committed yourself to your goal and can’t weasel out...

where it says:

> Based on thus-far scant evidence, we’re treating one week as the universal akrasia horizon.

I challenge this notion. I don’t feel my akrasia is well represented by this. It might be because of my goals not being “walk 10000 steps a day” or “climb 11 flights of stairs each day” and so on but more time-based goals that can not be suffered through so “easily”.

For those goals I think I would prefer something like 2 or 3 days. Where does this come from? Personal experience, gut feeling and my University which has a 3 day akrasia horizon when it comes to cancelling your registration for a written exam.  
In the past I found that this resonates a lot more with me. Now this might just be me and me being a student and thus having a far less regular week than someone with a 40hrs 9-5 job but that’s also my point. I am not happy with this universal akrasia horizon. But it’s been there for 8 years now and a brief search in the forums did not reveal any major outbursts of protest so maybe it really is just me?

Thoughts?

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**Author:** ![adamwolf](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.beeminder.com/adamwolf/32/484_2.png) [@adamwolf](https://forum.beeminder.com/u/adamwolf)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2019, 6:21pm UTC](https://forum.beeminder.com/t/akrasia-horizon-one-size-fits-all/5069/2 "2019-03-07T18:21:57Z")

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I would like a longer akrasia horizon on some of my goals.

Lemme be clear though–this is one of the lowest priority things I would ever even ask to be changed about Beeminder.

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**Author:** ![narthur](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.beeminder.com/narthur/32/5113_2.png) [@narthur](https://forum.beeminder.com/u/narthur)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2019, 7:39pm UTC](https://forum.beeminder.com/t/akrasia-horizon-one-size-fits-all/5069/3 "2019-03-07T19:39:19Z")

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What if the akrasia horizon was a per-goal setting that itself couldn’t be changed until the end of the current horizon?

One reason I don’t like the idea is that right now it’s pretty straight-forward to know how often I need to beetune since every goal has the same horizon. Allowing it to be tampered with could make things a lot more complicated.

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**Author:** ![strickvl](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.beeminder.com/strickvl/32/529_2.png) [@strickvl](https://forum.beeminder.com/u/strickvl)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2019, 7:11pm UTC](https://forum.beeminder.com/t/akrasia-horizon-one-size-fits-all/5069/4 "2019-03-10T19:11:03Z")

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My main gripe with Akrasia is that I often fall sick (chronic illness etc) and then all my goals fail. There’s no way for Beeminder really to work in the way I need for when I’m sick vs when I’m feeling better. It doesn’t have the flexibility to accommodate these big shifts.

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**Author:** ![beeminder\_user](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ee59a6/32.png) [@beeminder\_user](https://forum.beeminder.com/u/beeminder_user)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2019, 8:45pm UTC](https://forum.beeminder.com/t/akrasia-horizon-one-size-fits-all/5069/5 "2019-09-17T20:45:30Z")

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I want to register one more case against “single horizon fits all” - in my case short term Akrasia is significant, but there is no significant difference between “two days in the future” and “two years in the future”.

I also relatively often have unexpected things that require break for some of my goals. I know that I can email support, but I feel a bit stupid sending third email in month requesting an emergency break. This time it will be “I have a holiday trip planned for a year and only now I remembered that I should set break on /work goal”.

In my case allowing me to reduce horizon to three or four days would allow me to reduce how many times I email support.

Hopefully posting in old topic is better than creating new one (I see “Revive this topic?” on the right but it has no advice whatever I should rather create a duplicate).
