# Beeminder Penalties as Indulgences
**URL:** https://forum.beeminder.com/t/beeminder-penalties-as-indulgences/4713
**Category:** Akrasia
**Created:** [January 2, 2019, 7:41pm UTC](https://forum.beeminder.com/t/beeminder-penalties-as-indulgences/4713 "2019-01-02T19:41:03Z")
**Posts on this page:** 5
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### Author:  [@nepomuk](https://forum.beeminder.com/u/nepomuk)
#### Post date: [January 2, 2019, 7:41pm UTC](https://forum.beeminder.com/t/beeminder-penalties-as-indulgences/4713/1 "2019-01-02T19:41:04Z")
Anyone ever decide to deliberately derail on a goal and consider the penalty paid to Beeminder as expiation for your transgression?
I admit I’ve been doing this a fair bit lately, especially with my restaurant/delivery goal. “I really should be making a lunch to bring with us instead of planning to eat at the coffee shop, but oh well. It’s the holidays! At least those nice people at Beeminder will get $5 out of my bad behavior!”
Not quite sure how to feel about this, heh. Am I the only one who thinks of Beeminder penalties this way?
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### Author:  [@apolyton](https://forum.beeminder.com/u/apolyton)
#### Post date: [January 2, 2019, 9:58pm UTC](https://forum.beeminder.com/t/beeminder-penalties-as-indulgences/4713/2 "2019-01-02T21:58:09Z")
Guilty as charged 🙂
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### Author:  [@dreev](https://forum.beeminder.com/u/dreev)
#### Post date: [January 3, 2019, 12:54am UTC](https://forum.beeminder.com/t/beeminder-penalties-as-indulgences/4713/3 "2019-01-03T00:54:24Z")
[melt!] As long as when you step back (ie, not just in the moment) it still feels worth it overall! If not, bump up that pledge cap! 😁
Also, relevant blog post from @bee: [http://blog.beeminder.com/beenice](http://blog.beeminder.com/beenice)
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### Author:  [@adamwolf](https://forum.beeminder.com/u/adamwolf)
#### Post date: [January 3, 2019, 6:51pm UTC](https://forum.beeminder.com/t/beeminder-penalties-as-indulgences/4713/4 "2019-01-03T18:51:16Z")
I haven’t ever thought “at least the nice people at Beeminder will get my $5”, even though they are nice people.
I am, however, someone who often thinks of derails as Bee does in the Beenice post–otherwise I get too bummed about derails, which is very counterproductive for me.
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### Author:  [@lanthala](https://forum.beeminder.com/u/lanthala)
#### Post date: [January 4, 2019, 4:27am UTC](https://forum.beeminder.com/t/beeminder-penalties-as-indulgences/4713/5 "2019-01-04T04:27:04Z")
Yeah, I’ve definitely made the executive decision that it was worth paying the price, and didn’t feel guilty about it. I made that decision once on one of my $90 goals, too… It was worth it.
Actually, that’s probably a good way to figure out the “right” price threshold for a goal: how often will you be willing to pay that price to get yourself off the hook?