# Complice vs. BaaS

**URL:** https://forum.beeminder.com/t/complice-vs-baas/4849
**Category:** Akrasia
**Created:** [January 30, 2019, 4:02pm UTC](https://forum.beeminder.com/t/complice-vs-baas/4849 "2019-01-30T16:02:42Z")
**Posts on this page:** 7
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### Author: ![zedmango](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c67d28/32.png) [@zedmango](https://forum.beeminder.com/u/zedmango)
#### Post date: [January 30, 2019, 4:02pm UTC](https://forum.beeminder.com/t/complice-vs-baas/4849/1 "2019-01-30T16:02:42Z")

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Are Complice and BaaS competitors? Do they serve a similar role, or can they complement each other? Does anyone use both, or does it make more sense to just pick one?

@malcolm @manasvinik

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### Author: ![malcolm](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.beeminder.com/malcolm/32/67_2.png) [@malcolm](https://forum.beeminder.com/u/malcolm)
#### Post date: [January 31, 2019, 5:24am UTC](https://forum.beeminder.com/t/complice-vs-baas/4849/2 "2019-01-31T05:24:40Z")

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My original concept for Complice was kind of similar to Boss As A Service, in that it involved having someone (me) engage with users’ lists of what they were working on each day. But as it evolved, it because much more about self-awareness rather than external accountability (except for the accountability partner feature).

So I could imagine someone using both, although I don’t specifically know anyone who does.

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### Author: ![manasvinik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@manasvinik](https://forum.beeminder.com/u/manasvinik)
#### Post date: [January 31, 2019, 7:40am UTC](https://forum.beeminder.com/t/complice-vs-baas/4849/3 "2019-01-31T07:40:29Z")

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Agree with what Malcolm said above! 🙂 Complice focuses on a system of intentions + outcomes, and self-reflection, and BaaS focuses on human accountability.

I know we have a few BaaS users who use Complice regularly too, so I think they can complement each other nicely!

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### Author: ![zedmango](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c67d28/32.png) [@zedmango](https://forum.beeminder.com/u/zedmango)
#### Post date: [January 31, 2019, 3:31pm UTC](https://forum.beeminder.com/t/complice-vs-baas/4849/4 "2019-01-31T15:31:51Z")

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Can they integrate? Can BaaS track Complice and charge me when certain conditions are not met?

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### Author: ![manasvinik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@manasvinik](https://forum.beeminder.com/u/manasvinik)
#### Post date: [February 1, 2019, 1:03am UTC](https://forum.beeminder.com/t/complice-vs-baas/4849/5 "2019-02-01T01:03:43Z")

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Sure, though charging you would also require Beeminder! So if you had a workflow like “If I don’t finish all my intentions on Complice for Friday, and prove it to BaaS via screenshots, BaaS can have Beeminder charge me” that would work! 🙂

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### Author: ![zedmango](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c67d28/32.png) [@zedmango](https://forum.beeminder.com/u/zedmango)
#### Post date: [February 1, 2019, 1:04am UTC](https://forum.beeminder.com/t/complice-vs-baas/4849/6 "2019-02-01T01:04:51Z")

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> [@malcolm](#):
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> My original concept for Complice was kind of similar to Boss As A Service, in that it involved having someone (me) engage with users’ lists of what they were working on each day. But as it evolved, it because much more about self-awareness rather than external accountability (except for the accountability partner feature).

So you no longer engage with users’ lists?

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### Author: ![malcolm](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.beeminder.com/malcolm/32/67_2.png) [@malcolm](https://forum.beeminder.com/u/malcolm)
#### Post date: [February 2, 2019, 4:50am UTC](https://forum.beeminder.com/t/complice-vs-baas/4849/7 "2019-02-02T04:50:24Z")

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Correct. Haven’t since mid-2015. I don’t see any user data set to private, though I can see how many intentions a user has for a given goal on a given day for support purposes. But all I can see is that #2 is blue and has 3 intentions, etc.
