# Derailing two days in a row

**URL:** <https://forum.beeminder.com/t/derailing-two-days-in-a-row/10377>\
**Category:** Bugabee\
**Created:** [May 27, 2022, 6:42pm UTC](https://forum.beeminder.com/t/derailing-two-days-in-a-row/10377 "2022-05-27T18:42:56Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 8\
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**Author:** ![katriel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.beeminder.com/katriel/32/3473_2.png) [@katriel](https://forum.beeminder.com/u/katriel)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2022, 6:42pm UTC](https://forum.beeminder.com/t/derailing-two-days-in-a-row/10377/1 "2022-05-27T18:42:56Z")

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I have several every day goals (and - _shudder_ - do-zero goals) with no days of mercy. My understanding is that if I derail two days in a row, the charge for the second derailment won’t actually go through. Is that right? If so, is it perceived as a bug to fix? From my user point of view it is a bug, because I start to feel like I get a free day of mercy.

Yesterday I derailed on my various-forbidden-distractions-after-bedtime goal. I sorta feel like, ooh, I’m allowed to goof off after bedtime tonight because the derailment isn’t for real.

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**Author:** ![dreev](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.beeminder.com/dreev/32/4311_2.png) [@dreev](https://forum.beeminder.com/u/dreev)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2022, 5:31am UTC](https://forum.beeminder.com/t/derailing-two-days-in-a-row/10377/2 "2022-05-28T05:31:16Z")

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Beautiful potential bug report! (Have I mentioned lately that our bug bounty is stickers? DM me to claim them!)

I think the original idea was to suppress any new derailment charge if the goal already derailed within the last 24 hours. If it’s been exactly 24 hours though – and if you’ve explicitly set your post-derail respite (previously known as “days of mercy”) to zero – then you’re right, that charge shouldn’t be suppressed!

I actually believe it wouldn’t be but now I’m not sure myself. You say “your understanding” – is that something we’ve said or something you’ve observed with your own Beeminder goals?

Thanks again for asking about this!

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**Author:** ![katriel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.beeminder.com/katriel/32/3473_2.png) [@katriel](https://forum.beeminder.com/u/katriel)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2022, 12:04pm UTC](https://forum.beeminder.com/t/derailing-two-days-in-a-row/10377/3 "2022-05-28T12:04:54Z")

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Thanks, Danny!

> [@dreev](#):
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> You say “your understanding” – is that something we’ve said or something you’ve observed with your own Beeminder goals?

I meant the former. Nicky told me:

> To clarify, you can only have one charge pending at a time, so for just over 24 hours after you’ve been charged (or longer if we delay a charge), you can’t be charged again. So right now there is a $90 charge pending, and until that goes through, you can’t be charged again.

Now I have looked at my financial records a little. It confirms that at least once I was not charged for a derailment the day following another derailment (katriel/bedtime, around May 1 give or take a day).

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**Author:** ![dreev](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.beeminder.com/dreev/32/4311_2.png) [@dreev](https://forum.beeminder.com/u/dreev)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2022, 10:54pm UTC](https://forum.beeminder.com/t/derailing-two-days-in-a-row/10377/4 "2022-05-28T22:54:44Z")

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Ah, thanks for confirming! If @shanaqui said it then I don’t doubt it. And I agree that it’s being overzealous in suppressing charges. At the very least we could change that “just over 24 hours” to “strictly within 24 hours”. Now @bee will probably tell me how much easier said than done that is, but this is really good to have started the conversation. Thank you again!

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**Author:** ![katriel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.beeminder.com/katriel/32/3473_2.png) [@katriel](https://forum.beeminder.com/u/katriel)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2022, 4:50pm UTC](https://forum.beeminder.com/t/derailing-two-days-in-a-row/10377/5 "2022-06-11T16:50:55Z")

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Just noting I think you lost another $60 from this today, unless the problem is fixed. If so I’d like to know too!

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**Author:** ![katriel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.beeminder.com/katriel/32/3473_2.png) [@katriel](https://forum.beeminder.com/u/katriel)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2022, 12:18pm UTC](https://forum.beeminder.com/t/derailing-two-days-in-a-row/10377/6 "2022-09-26T12:18:23Z")

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Any update on this? The uncertainty of “maybe Beeminder has fixed this and I’ll get charged if I derail” is less motivating than “I know this is fixed and I’ll get charged if I derail”

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**Author:** ![shanaqui](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.beeminder.com/shanaqui/32/3513_2.png) [@shanaqui](https://forum.beeminder.com/u/shanaqui)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2022, 1:30pm UTC](https://forum.beeminder.com/t/derailing-two-days-in-a-row/10377/7 "2022-09-26T13:30:09Z")

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As far as I’m aware, nothing has changed at this time – that is to say, if a charge is currently pending, then you will not be charged again, and charges are not processed until after your next deadline. Therefore you can’t be charged two days in a row.

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**Author:** ![katriel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.beeminder.com/katriel/32/3473_2.png) [@katriel](https://forum.beeminder.com/u/katriel)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2023, 11:36am UTC](https://forum.beeminder.com/t/derailing-two-days-in-a-row/10377/8 "2023-09-17T11:36:33Z")

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I saw someone liked one of the posts here. This problem is now fixed.

(Sorry I couldn’t find the link quickly)
