# Inconsistent data from BeemiOS "Mindful Minutes" **URL:** \ **Category:** Bugabee\ **Created:** [July 4, 2017, 9:29am UTC](https://forum.beeminder.com/t/inconsistent-data-from-beemios-mindful-minutes/3316 "2017-07-04T09:29:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![dehowell](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.beeminder.com/dehowell/32/867_2.png) [@dehowell](https://forum.beeminder.com/u/dehowell)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2017, 9:29am UTC](https://forum.beeminder.com/t/inconsistent-data-from-beemios-mindful-minutes/3316/1 "2017-07-04T09:29:09Z")
Has anyone else tried the “Mindful Minutes” auto data in the Beeminder iOS app? I’m seriously confused about what it’s doing. I’m getting mindful minutes data from three different apps and I cannot understand how BeemiOS is ending up with its totals. ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/beeminder/original/2X/e/e576ca48642858cf5f8d252a5d7c9237be46e1b8.png) ---
**Author:** ![dehowell](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.beeminder.com/dehowell/32/867_2.png) [@dehowell](https://forum.beeminder.com/u/dehowell)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2017, 11:40pm UTC](https://forum.beeminder.com/t/inconsistent-data-from-beemios-mindful-minutes/3316/2 "2017-07-06T23:40:08Z")
Yikes! As it turns out, my steps are no longer updating either. I keep trying to go to the iOS app and trigger a refresh, but no data points newer than July 4th have been imported into Beeminder. I’ve confirmed that Beeminder still has permissions to access the relevant Health data AND I even went nuclear and reinstalled the Beeminder app. I’m at a loss! I won’t have an eep day until Saturday, but it’s sad to not have graphs updating. ---
**Author:** ![apb](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.beeminder.com/apb/32/100_2.png) [@apb](https://forum.beeminder.com/u/apb)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2017, 5:39am UTC](https://forum.beeminder.com/t/inconsistent-data-from-beemios-mindful-minutes/3316/3 "2017-07-07T05:39:40Z")
Is the deadline for the goal set to something other than midnight? That’s my first guess but it also wouldn’t explain all of the discrepancies. And I believe the issue you’re seeing with the updates stopping is the same one a few others have reported, I should have a fix for that shortly. ---
**Author:** ![dehowell](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.beeminder.com/dehowell/32/867_2.png) [@dehowell](https://forum.beeminder.com/u/dehowell)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2017, 11:38am UTC](https://forum.beeminder.com/t/inconsistent-data-from-beemios-mindful-minutes/3316/4 "2017-07-07T11:38:30Z")
The deadline _was_ 10 AM, until a couple of months ago when I switched it back to midnight. So I think you’re on to something there. It looks like the data points were being grouped with the 10 AM to 10 AM window starting the prior day. When I reinstalled the Beeminder iOS app, the grouping changed to midnight to midnight. It looks like the iOS app is perhaps caching and not correctly refreshing the deadline for goals? I’ll be on the lookout for the new version of the app and let you know if that fixes my problem. ---
**Author:** ![dehowell](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.beeminder.com/dehowell/32/867_2.png) [@dehowell](https://forum.beeminder.com/u/dehowell)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2017, 9:24am UTC](https://forum.beeminder.com/t/inconsistent-data-from-beemios-mindful-minutes/3316/5 "2017-07-15T09:24:14Z")
All fixed now. ---
**Author:** ![dehowell](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.beeminder.com/dehowell/32/867_2.png) [@dehowell](https://forum.beeminder.com/u/dehowell)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2018, 12:11pm UTC](https://forum.beeminder.com/t/inconsistent-data-from-beemios-mindful-minutes/3316/6 "2018-01-28T12:11:47Z")
Sigh. Beeminder on iOS is doubling up my mindful minutes data points again; this time logging a session on both the _actual_ day and for some reason on the _prior_ day. Tagging: @apb ---
**Author:** ![apb](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.beeminder.com/apb/32/100_2.png) [@apb](https://forum.beeminder.com/u/apb)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2018, 2:19pm UTC](https://forum.beeminder.com/t/inconsistent-data-from-beemios-mindful-minutes/3316/7 "2018-01-29T14:19:23Z")
Thanks for reporting this, I’ll investigate. Is there any chance you recently changed time zones, or had your device’s time zone different than the one on your Beeminder account? That’s usually the prime suspect with mindful minutes these days but I’m working on making it robust to that situation. ---
**Author:** ![dehowell](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.beeminder.com/dehowell/32/867_2.png) [@dehowell](https://forum.beeminder.com/u/dehowell)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2018, 1:23am UTC](https://forum.beeminder.com/t/inconsistent-data-from-beemios-mindful-minutes/3316/8 "2018-01-30T01:23:54Z")
Actually yes – I went from US Eastern time to US Central time for several hours during a layover between flights on Christmas day. And it looks from my graphs like that might have been about when the problem started. Does that seem consistent with what you’ve seen? That just a few hours in a slightly different time zone can trigger duplicates? ---
**Author:** ![apb](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.beeminder.com/apb/32/100_2.png) [@apb](https://forum.beeminder.com/u/apb)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2018, 3:15am UTC](https://forum.beeminder.com/t/inconsistent-data-from-beemios-mindful-minutes/3316/9 "2018-01-30T03:15:51Z")
Yep that (unfortunately) sounds right. Because of the way mindful minutes are reported with Apple Health (in sessions and divided into days by your deadline) changing the device’s time zone results in all that being recalculated and new datapoints being sent. It’s definitley not intentional or the smartest way to do it; I’m working on a fix but that’s good to know that this falls into that category. Let us know if you want any help cleaning up duplicate datapoints. Sorry for the hassle! ---
**Author:** ![dehowell](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.beeminder.com/dehowell/32/867_2.png) [@dehowell](https://forum.beeminder.com/u/dehowell)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2018, 10:51am UTC](https://forum.beeminder.com/t/inconsistent-data-from-beemios-mindful-minutes/3316/10 "2018-01-30T10:51:39Z")
Help with the duplicates would be great, thanks! ---
**Author:** ![dehowell](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.beeminder.com/dehowell/32/867_2.png) [@dehowell](https://forum.beeminder.com/u/dehowell)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2018, 3:06pm UTC](https://forum.beeminder.com/t/inconsistent-data-from-beemios-mindful-minutes/3316/11 "2018-06-17T15:06:18Z")
Hi @apb – I’ve downloaded version 5.1 of BeemiOS and I tried hooking Mindful Minutes up to my meditation goal again. But sadly, the duplicate data struck once more: ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/beeminder/original/2X/c/cf61e267605ab7fd9d28c9d41387fd052dc8d746.png) ---
**Author:** ![philip](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.beeminder.com/philip/32/1505_2.png) [@philip](https://forum.beeminder.com/u/philip)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2018, 1:14pm UTC](https://forum.beeminder.com/t/inconsistent-data-from-beemios-mindful-minutes/3316/12 "2018-06-24T13:14:47Z")
A solution for some people will be to set their meditation goal to aggregate as **max** so that only one of those datapoints counts (the highest of them). That should work for those of you who only meditate once per day. If you’re on the **Bee Plus** or a higher subscription plan you can do this yourself by changing the goal type to **custom** and then setting the aggregation method. (All on the goal’s settings tab.) If you’re just frustrated and this duplicates bug\* is standing in your way, email support and we’ll set that for you beehind the scenes. \* it’s unclear to me whether it’s something that we can do anything about, in the case of travel and timezones and how Apple Health is reporting those datapoints… ---
**Author:** ![dehowell](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.beeminder.com/dehowell/32/867_2.png) [@dehowell](https://forum.beeminder.com/u/dehowell)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2018, 2:09pm UTC](https://forum.beeminder.com/t/inconsistent-data-from-beemios-mindful-minutes/3316/13 "2018-06-24T14:09:54Z")
That’s a good idea, thank you. ---
**Author:** ![apb](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.beeminder.com/apb/32/100_2.png) [@apb](https://forum.beeminder.com/u/apb)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2018, 1:20am UTC](https://forum.beeminder.com/t/inconsistent-data-from-beemios-mindful-minutes/3316/14 "2018-06-27T01:20:56Z")
Sorry, I should have been clearer in the release notes about what was being fixed. 5.1 was expected to fix the spurious derails caused by overwriting old datapoints for the previous week. The duplicates are trickier and are partially being caused by a server-side-sort-of-bug where two datapoints that arrive at more or less the exact same time and with the same identifier are supposed to not be saved twice but they are. It’s not a travel/timezone issue and theoretically is totally solvable it’s just… taking a while 😃 sorry! ---
**Author:** ![icole](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.beeminder.com/icole/32/431_2.png) [@icole](https://forum.beeminder.com/u/icole)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 7:14am UTC](https://forum.beeminder.com/t/inconsistent-data-from-beemios-mindful-minutes/3316/15 "2018-09-28T07:14:18Z")
@apb I am having a problem with this as well. Despite having data logged in Apple Health I cannot get the app to synce. Pressing the “Sync with Health App” and “Sync Last 7 days” buttons just sit there with a spinner and never actually sync. Any ideas on what I can do? ---
**Author:** ![nickpascucci](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.beeminder.com/nickpascucci/32/2884_2.png) [@nickpascucci](https://forum.beeminder.com/u/nickpascucci)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2019, 5:02pm UTC](https://forum.beeminder.com/t/inconsistent-data-from-beemios-mindful-minutes/3316/16 "2019-05-14T17:02:35Z")
@apb I’m also hitting this problem. Pressing the “Sync with Health App” button gives me an endless spinner, the “Sync Last 7 Days” button doesn’t have any visible effect. Happy to gather more data if you tell me what would be helpful for debugging.