# other accountability service experiences?

**URL:** <https://forum.beeminder.com/t/other-accountability-service-experiences/4817>\
**Category:** Akrasia\
**Created:** [January 23, 2019, 3:18pm UTC](https://forum.beeminder.com/t/other-accountability-service-experiences/4817 "2019-01-23T15:18:36Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![adamwolf](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.beeminder.com/adamwolf/32/484_2.png) [@adamwolf](https://forum.beeminder.com/u/adamwolf)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2019, 3:18pm UTC](https://forum.beeminder.com/t/other-accountability-service-experiences/4817/1 "2019-01-23T15:18:36Z")

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Hi folks!

After years of not really _getting_ why people would want human-accountability-as-a-service, I’m thinking there’s a few goals that could use an extra oomph.

They are goals that only get a datapoint every month or so, and I’d really like someone to look at the comment, open up the url and verify that I did the thing.

I know some folks here like [Boss-as-a-Service](https://bossasaservice.life/), made by @manasvinik: (testimonials in this thread: [Interested in having someone monitor your progress and bugging you for defaulting? Accountability as a service](https://forum.beeminder.com/t/interested-in-having-someone-monitor-your-progress-and-bugging-you-for-defaulting-accountability-as-a-service/3638/24)) Are there any other ones folks have tried? Any that already understand Beeminder so I don’t have to explain it to them?

I looked into Boss-as-a-Service. It looks great, they get Beeminder, and I know some folks here really like it. However, since I really only have 2 things per month I want them to check, I’m not sure the current pricing is effective for me. Also, they’re so popular they’re not taking new signups!

Also see ([I'm Going To](https://forum.beeminder.com/t/im-going-to/4616), and the list here: [Most elegant way to create one-off must-do event with penalty?](https://forum.beeminder.com/t/most-elegant-way-to-create-one-off-must-do-event-with-penalty/4274/2)).

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**Author:** ![eugeniobruno](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f475e1/32.png) [@eugeniobruno](https://forum.beeminder.com/u/eugeniobruno)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2019, 3:24pm UTC](https://forum.beeminder.com/t/other-accountability-service-experiences/4817/2 "2019-01-23T15:24:51Z")

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I’m still waiting for the next BaaS signup batch. As you said, no new signups for a while.

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**Author:** ![zedmango](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c67d28/32.png) [@zedmango](https://forum.beeminder.com/u/zedmango)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2019, 6:03pm UTC](https://forum.beeminder.com/t/other-accountability-service-experiences/4817/3 "2019-01-23T18:03:35Z")

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EDIT: I was WRONG about this. This post was WRONG.  
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> [@adamwolf](#):
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> they’re so popular they’re not taking new signups!

This is purely a calendar thing - it’s like with gym memberships. Everyone signs up the first week of January and uses it for a few weeks (which is why they cleverly offered a New Year’s “discount” for paying a year up front).

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**Author:** ![adamwolf](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.beeminder.com/adamwolf/32/484_2.png) [@adamwolf](https://forum.beeminder.com/u/adamwolf)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2019, 7:15pm UTC](https://forum.beeminder.com/t/other-accountability-service-experiences/4817/4 "2019-01-23T19:15:32Z")

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well, it _could_ be a calendar thing, but I think saying it’s exclusively a calendar thing is selling them short!

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**Author:** ![dreev](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.beeminder.com/dreev/32/4311_2.png) [@dreev](https://forum.beeminder.com/u/dreev)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2019, 12:46am UTC](https://forum.beeminder.com/t/other-accountability-service-experiences/4817/5 "2019-01-24T00:46:38Z")

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Yup, in fact it’s not a new year’s thing. It’s a [being on the front page of Hacker News a couple months ago](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18512197) thing.

I personally use BaaS and it’s super great. I’ve also now befriended the founder so I’m biased but I was a BaaS user first! Also I think it’s drastically underpriced and have been trying really hard to convince @manasvinik to raise prices, by a lot. She’s probably super sick of me bugging her about this by now!

Actually, @adamwolf’s concern about not getting his money’s worth only using it twice a month suggests a good way to price discriminate: pricing tiers based on frequency of the checkins.

But the point is, there are people who use BaaS every day to drastically magnify their productivity, follow-through, and life satisfaction. For them, $100/mo or more would not be at all unreasonable and BaaS’s pricing should find a way to charge those people that. Not out of greed but to be sustainable. The service is inherently expensive to provide!

And obviously it’s better to have the service available now at a higher price than to be stuck on a waitlist not getting bossed. 🙂

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**Author:** ![zedmango](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c67d28/32.png) [@zedmango](https://forum.beeminder.com/u/zedmango)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2019, 2:23am UTC](https://forum.beeminder.com/t/other-accountability-service-experiences/4817/6 "2019-01-24T02:23:48Z")

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EDIT: I was WRONG about this. This post is WRONG.

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> [@dreev](#):
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> in fact it’s not a new year’s thing. It’s a [being on the front page of Hacker News a couple months ago](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18512197) thing

But the waitlist didn’t start until shortly after new year’s. (I know because I was looking into getting it right after new year’s, and it was available, and then after looking into it for a few days, it wasn’t.)

To be clear, I’m not saying anything negative about the service, just saying that closing new sign-ups is a function of the calendar and people’s tendency to start new projects shortly after the new year.

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**Author:** ![adamwolf](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.beeminder.com/adamwolf/32/484_2.png) [@adamwolf](https://forum.beeminder.com/u/adamwolf)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2019, 2:40am UTC](https://forum.beeminder.com/t/other-accountability-service-experiences/4817/7 "2019-01-24T02:40:41Z")

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Thanks for reminding me how irrational I’m being about price here.

If I could bill one more hour a month because I’m not procrastinating or apologizing for something, $25 would be a steal, and double that would be just fine.

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**Author:** ![apolyton](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.beeminder.com/apolyton/32/1965_2.png) [@apolyton](https://forum.beeminder.com/u/apolyton)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2019, 1:21pm UTC](https://forum.beeminder.com/t/other-accountability-service-experiences/4817/8 "2019-01-24T13:21:23Z")

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@adamwolf  
I will bother you on a weekly basis for 5$ / month! I will put the funds to a “beeminder jar” to cover my own transgressions 😃

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**Author:** ![adamwolf](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.beeminder.com/adamwolf/32/484_2.png) [@adamwolf](https://forum.beeminder.com/u/adamwolf)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2019, 1:53pm UTC](https://forum.beeminder.com/t/other-accountability-service-experiences/4817/9 "2019-01-24T13:53:03Z")

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If they don’t open signups in a few weeks, I’ll see about taking you up on that, apolyton! [adam.commits.to/follow\_up\_on\_baas\_thread](http://adam.commits.to/follow_up_on_baas_thread)

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**Author:** ![eugeniobruno](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f475e1/32.png) [@eugeniobruno](https://forum.beeminder.com/u/eugeniobruno)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2019, 2:17pm UTC](https://forum.beeminder.com/t/other-accountability-service-experiences/4817/10 "2019-01-24T14:17:18Z")

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> [@adamwolf](#):
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> If they don’t open signups in a few weeks

Heads up, they’re sending batches of invites via email! Make sure you’ve signed up. Don’t hold your breath yet, I’ve signed up in December and still nothing.

I guess having to turn down people because you’re at full capacity is the best kind of problem to have 🙂 Good for them. It’s a really cool project, I’m glad it’s going great

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**Author:** ![adamwolf](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.beeminder.com/adamwolf/32/484_2.png) [@adamwolf](https://forum.beeminder.com/u/adamwolf)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2019, 3:39pm UTC](https://forum.beeminder.com/t/other-accountability-service-experiences/4817/11 "2019-01-24T15:39:04Z")

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I did sign up, but only yesterday. Please post here if you get an invite!

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**Author:** ![zedmango](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c67d28/32.png) [@zedmango](https://forum.beeminder.com/u/zedmango)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2019, 4:44pm UTC](https://forum.beeminder.com/t/other-accountability-service-experiences/4817/12 "2019-01-24T16:44:14Z")

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> [@eugeniobruno](#):
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> I’ve signed up in December and still nothing.

Wait, they weren’t available in December? Maybe I misread their page then. It looked like they were available when I checked in early Jan.

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**Author:** ![dreev](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.beeminder.com/dreev/32/4311_2.png) [@dreev](https://forum.beeminder.com/u/dreev)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2019, 5:43pm UTC](https://forum.beeminder.com/t/other-accountability-service-experiences/4817/13 "2019-01-24T17:43:36Z")

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Yeah, I was pretty sure and just asked @manasvinik and confirmed that signups have been closed the whole time since around the Hacker News thread, late November or early December.

Next interesting question (not sure if @manasvinik endorses this) is whether it would feel unfair for BaaS to let people jump the queue for various reasons, such as willingness to pay more. In my mind that’s highly fair and highly socially efficient and it’s just a matter of doing it in a way that _feels_ fair.

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**Author:** ![manasvinik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@manasvinik](https://forum.beeminder.com/u/manasvinik)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2019, 5:45pm UTC](https://forum.beeminder.com/t/other-accountability-service-experiences/4817/14 "2019-01-24T17:45:14Z")

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Hi folks, this is Manasvini from Boss as a Service! 🙂 Catching up with this thread a little late!

Yes, we did start sending out invites, but since it’s not an automated service, we’re sending it out in batches, staggering it so we make sure we can make sure we give everyone a good experience. Happy to send everyone here an invite though, could you PM me your email addresses? 🙂

@zedmango we did close soon after the Hacker News feature, before the New Year!

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**Author:** ![zedmango](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c67d28/32.png) [@zedmango](https://forum.beeminder.com/u/zedmango)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2019, 5:51pm UTC](https://forum.beeminder.com/t/other-accountability-service-experiences/4817/15 "2019-01-24T17:51:17Z")

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Thank you! I stand corrected!

Is an annual rate still available?

> [@manasvinik](#):
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> Happy to send everyone here an invite though, could you PM me your email addresses? 🙂

I will take you up on this!

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**Author:** ![manasvinik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@manasvinik](https://forum.beeminder.com/u/manasvinik)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2019, 6:16pm UTC](https://forum.beeminder.com/t/other-accountability-service-experiences/4817/16 "2019-01-24T18:16:06Z")

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> I will take you up on this!

replied! 🙂

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**Author:** ![gaidheal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.beeminder.com/gaidheal/32/450_2.png) [@gaidheal](https://forum.beeminder.com/u/gaidheal)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2020, 11:46pm UTC](https://forum.beeminder.com/t/other-accountability-service-experiences/4817/17 "2020-06-02T23:46:50Z")

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Apologies for necroing this thread - I was really excited about finding BaaS then discovered it was closed, and that no blogs posted or tweets from @manasvinik since 2018… then I saw her posts on this thread!  
Am experimenting running my own version via email. If I’m wrong and Baas isn’t dormant, I’d love to get in on it!

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**Author:** ![zedmango](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c67d28/32.png) [@zedmango](https://forum.beeminder.com/u/zedmango)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2020, 2:45am UTC](https://forum.beeminder.com/t/other-accountability-service-experiences/4817/18 "2020-06-03T02:45:09Z")

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Baas is definitely still active!

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**Author:** ![gaidheal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.beeminder.com/gaidheal/32/450_2.png) [@gaidheal](https://forum.beeminder.com/u/gaidheal)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2020, 7:08am UTC](https://forum.beeminder.com/t/other-accountability-service-experiences/4817/19 "2020-06-03T07:08:16Z")

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Nice! Thanks for letting me know! I’ll just have to F5 that signup page…

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**Author:** ![zedmango](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c67d28/32.png) [@zedmango](https://forum.beeminder.com/u/zedmango)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2020, 7:14am UTC](https://forum.beeminder.com/t/other-accountability-service-experiences/4817/20 "2020-06-03T07:14:04Z")

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You can try messaging @manasvinik - at one point they were offering special access for Beeminder users, not sure if they still are.
