# Please let us set the starting pledge without subbing the $50/month package! **URL:** \ **Category:** Bugabee\ **Created:** [August 2, 2023, 12:07am UTC](https://forum.beeminder.com/t/please-let-us-set-the-starting-pledge-without-subbing-the-50-month-package/11069 "2023-08-02T00:07:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 6
**Author:** ![braun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/48db29/32.png) [@braun](https://forum.beeminder.com/u/braun)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2023, 4:08pm UTC](https://forum.beeminder.com/t/please-let-us-set-the-starting-pledge-without-subbing-the-50-month-package/11069/6 "2023-08-07T16:08:59Z")
> [@poisson](#): > > of course everyone is different, but my experience is it’s easy to derail due to confusion / forgetting about goals / not setting things up correctly … so personally I think it’s a good thing to discourage newbees from making large pledges. That’s fine, but again, they’ve said [multiple](https://blog.beeminder.com/shortcircuit/) [times](https://forum.beeminder.com/t/beeminder-alternative/4036/2) (last time it came up @dreev said he’d “defend it to the death”) you can’t do because if you’re too motivated they don’t think you’ll fail as much and that impacts beeminder’s revenue. If the real reason is newbies will mess it up, it seems like they’re are better ways to address that (put it in an advanced setting or don’t let people do it on the free plan or whatever). > [@poisson](#): > > I have personally spent a LOT more money on “I let the pledge get to $30, and then one day I forgot beeminder existed” than “$5 wasn’t enough to motivate me”. Yeah, same which is why I think BM would make more money if they allowed people to set their starting pledges to what they want. > [@poisson](#): > > Plus even if you believe the rational human model, I don’t think the complaint is really internally consistent. If you think you’re going to derail twice when it’s at $5 and $10, say, then evidently you believe you don’t really care that much about losing $15. But if you really don’t care, then why wouldn’t you just intentionally derail yourself twice immediately and spend the $15 to raise your pledge up to a higher amount? See discussions on the this [other thread](https://forum.beeminder.com/t/i-want-to-get-back-into-beeminder-heres-whats-stopping-me/11056/) about jumping through hoops (not to mention non-aligned incentives) and how it turns some people off. --- _[View the full topic](https://forum.beeminder.com/t/please-let-us-set-the-starting-pledge-without-subbing-the-50-month-package/11069)._