# skating the edge of my weight road **URL:** \ **Category:** uncategorized\ **Created:** [June 24, 2012, 8:16pm UTC](https://forum.beeminder.com/t/skating-the-edge-of-my-weight-road/1371 "2012-06-24T20:16:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![dreev](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.beeminder.com/dreev/32/4311_2.png) [@dreev](https://forum.beeminder.com/u/dreev)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2012, 8:16pm UTC](https://forum.beeminder.com/t/skating-the-edge-of-my-weight-road/1371/1 "2012-06-24T20:16:51Z")
At 9:40 this morning I weighed 71.85 kg (158.4 lb). That was a pound or so above my weight road, [bmndr.com/d/mass](http://bmndr.com/d/mass) . So I jumped around the house and did squats and and burpees and things until I had sweated out about 2 soda cans’ worth of sweat. Here’s what our scale sent to Beeminder for the hour and half that I repeatedly weighed myself to see if I was on the road yet: 24 71.85 "auto-entered from withings scale at 09:40" 24 72 "auto-entered from withings scale at 09:40" 24 72.05 "auto-entered from withings scale at 09:52" 24 72.05 "auto-entered from withings scale at 09:55" 24 71.85 "auto-entered from withings scale at 10:15" 24 71.85 "auto-entered from withings scale at 10:21" 24 71.95 "auto-entered from withings scale at 10:27" 24 71.75 "auto-entered from withings scale at 10:32" 24 71.85 "auto-entered from withings scale at 10:33" 24 71.9 "auto-entered from withings scale at 10:37" 24 71.9 "auto-entered from withings scale at 10:40" 24 71.85 "auto-entered from withings scale at 10:42" 24 71.65 "auto-entered from withings scale at 10:47" 24 71.4 "auto-entered from withings scale at 10:54" 24 71.55 "auto-entered from withings scale at 10:56" 24 71.4 "auto-entered from withings scale at 11:00" 24 71.55 "auto-entered from withings scale at 11:03" 24 71.5 "auto-entered from withings scale at 11:05" 24 71.25 “auto-entered from withings scale at 11:09” That last one put me back on the yellow brick road, barely. What I’m wondering is if there’s a good rule of thumb for how to game Beeminder like that without endangering one’s health. I’m thinking something like this: 1. Don’t overdress in order to sweat more. You want the side effect of burning a lot of calories. 2. Don’t do this multiple days in a row. Your true weight might be deviating more and more from the road, which means eventually you’ll have to dangerously dehydrate yourself to get back on. 3. Listen to your body. If you feel thirsty, drink. PS: I would’ve just not eaten all day and weighed in again at night but Bethany made chocolate chip muffins so I was pretty motivated to get on my road before leaving the house so I could eat them. – [http://dreev.es](http://dreev.es) – search://"Daniel Reeves" Follow the Yellow Brick Road – [http://beeminder.com](http://beeminder.com) ---
**Author:** ![Ken\_Chen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/4af34b/32.png) [@Ken\_Chen](https://forum.beeminder.com/u/Ken_Chen)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2012, 5:10am UTC](https://forum.beeminder.com/t/skating-the-edge-of-my-weight-road/1371/2 "2012-06-27T05:10:37Z")
Your body weight is closely correlated with how much water you have in your system-- so if you take the measurement at the right time, you’d have a lower weight. Of course, this only works once-- but perhaps you could set up a “buffer” by maximizing your measured weight at the beginning, so that if you have the temptation to “cheat”, you can safely do so once. On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 4:16 PM, Daniel Reeves [dreeves@beeminder.com](mailto:dreeves@beeminder.com)wrote: > At 9:40 this morning I weighed 71.85 kg (158.4 lb). That was a pound > or so above my weight road, [mass – d – beeminder](http://bmndr.com/d/mass) . > So I jumped around the house and did squats and and burpees and things > until I had sweated out about 2 soda cans’ worth of sweat. > Here’s what our scale sent to Beeminder for the hour and half that I > repeatedly weighed myself to see if I was on the road yet: > > 24 71.85 “auto-entered from withings scale at 09:40” > 24 72 “auto-entered from withings scale at 09:40” > 24 72.05 “auto-entered from withings scale at 09:52” > 24 72.05 “auto-entered from withings scale at 09:55” > 24 71.85 “auto-entered from withings scale at 10:15” > 24 71.85 “auto-entered from withings scale at 10:21” > 24 71.95 “auto-entered from withings scale at 10:27” > 24 71.75 “auto-entered from withings scale at 10:32” > 24 71.85 “auto-entered from withings scale at 10:33” > 24 71.9 “auto-entered from withings scale at 10:37” > 24 71.9 “auto-entered from withings scale at 10:40” > 24 71.85 “auto-entered from withings scale at 10:42” > 24 71.65 “auto-entered from withings scale at 10:47” > 24 71.4 “auto-entered from withings scale at 10:54” > 24 71.55 “auto-entered from withings scale at 10:56” > 24 71.4 “auto-entered from withings scale at 11:00” > 24 71.55 “auto-entered from withings scale at 11:03” > 24 71.5 “auto-entered from withings scale at 11:05” > 24 71.25 “auto-entered from withings scale at 11:09” > > That last one put me back on the yellow brick road, barely. > > What I’m wondering is if there’s a good rule of thumb for how to game > Beeminder like that without endangering one’s health. > I’m thinking something like this: > > 1. Don’t overdress in order to sweat more. You want the side effect > of burning a lot of calories. > 2. Don’t do this multiple days in a row. Your true weight might be > deviating more and more from the road, which means eventually you’ll > have to dangerously dehydrate yourself to get back on. > 3. Listen to your body. If you feel thirsty, drink. > > PS: I would’ve just not eaten all day and weighed in again at night > but Bethany made chocolate chip muffins so I was pretty motivated to > get on my road before leaving the house so I could eat them. > > – > [http://dreev.es](http://dreev.es) – search://“Daniel Reeves” > Follow the Yellow Brick Road – [http://beeminder.com](http://beeminder.com) ---
**Author:** ![Valerio\_De\_Camillis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.beeminder.com/valerio_de_camillis/32/677_2.png) [@Valerio\_De\_Camillis](https://forum.beeminder.com/u/Valerio_De_Camillis)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2012, 8:21am UTC](https://forum.beeminder.com/t/skating-the-edge-of-my-weight-road/1371/3 "2012-06-27T08:21:04Z")
You’re using Beeminder in a weird way. That is surprising, since you built it 😉 Yes, you can have the goal of staying below the outer edge of the ybr, but in this way you’re not using the safety buffer that having a ybr gives you . If Beeminder had no yellow brick road, but only a simple line that you must not cross at any time, you would have no flexibility, no “emergency day” to fix the state of whatever you’re tracking. And i guess this is why you introduced the ybr. Now, if you consider the outer edge of the road your “do not cross” line, you’re back to having no flexibility, there is again a point you cannot pass even for a day, and so on. If you do start considering the goal line as your target, you would have started doing “squats and and burpees and things” some days sooner, taking full advantage of the flexibility you built in the system. Anyway, good luck with your weight loss program… and release the APIs! 😉 Ciao, \ Valerio De Camillis On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 7:10 AM, Ken Chen [kennchen@gmail.com](mailto:kennchen@gmail.com) wrote: > Your body weight is closely correlated with how much water you have in > your system-- so if you take the measurement at the right time, you’d have > a lower weight. Of course, this only works once-- but perhaps you could set > up a “buffer” by maximizing your measured weight at the beginning, so that > if you have the temptation to “cheat”, you can safely do so once. > > On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 4:16 PM, Daniel Reeves [dreeves@beeminder.com](mailto:dreeves@beeminder.com)wrote: > > > At 9:40 this morning I weighed 71.85 kg (158.4 lb). That was a pound > > or so above my weight road, [mass – d – beeminder](http://bmndr.com/d/mass) . > > So I jumped around the house and did squats and and burpees and things > > until I had sweated out about 2 soda cans’ worth of sweat. > > Here’s what our scale sent to Beeminder for the hour and half that I > > repeatedly weighed myself to see if I was on the road yet: > > > > 24 71.85 “auto-entered from withings scale at 09:40” > > 24 72 “auto-entered from withings scale at 09:40” > > 24 72.05 “auto-entered from withings scale at 09:52” > > 24 72.05 “auto-entered from withings scale at 09:55” > > 24 71.85 “auto-entered from withings scale at 10:15” > > 24 71.85 “auto-entered from withings scale at 10:21” > > 24 71.95 “auto-entered from withings scale at 10:27” > > 24 71.75 “auto-entered from withings scale at 10:32” > > 24 71.85 “auto-entered from withings scale at 10:33” > > 24 71.9 “auto-entered from withings scale at 10:37” > > 24 71.9 “auto-entered from withings scale at 10:40” > > 24 71.85 “auto-entered from withings scale at 10:42” > > 24 71.65 “auto-entered from withings scale at 10:47” > > 24 71.4 “auto-entered from withings scale at 10:54” > > 24 71.55 “auto-entered from withings scale at 10:56” > > 24 71.4 “auto-entered from withings scale at 11:00” > > 24 71.55 “auto-entered from withings scale at 11:03” > > 24 71.5 “auto-entered from withings scale at 11:05” > > 24 71.25 “auto-entered from withings scale at 11:09” > > > > That last one put me back on the yellow brick road, barely. > > > > What I’m wondering is if there’s a good rule of thumb for how to game > > Beeminder like that without endangering one’s health. > > I’m thinking something like this: > > > > 1. Don’t overdress in order to sweat more. You want the side effect > > of burning a lot of calories. > > 2. Don’t do this multiple days in a row. Your true weight might be > > deviating more and more from the road, which means eventually you’ll > > have to dangerously dehydrate yourself to get back on. > > 3. Listen to your body. If you feel thirsty, drink. > > > > PS: I would’ve just not eaten all day and weighed in again at night > > but Bethany made chocolate chip muffins so I was pretty motivated to > > get on my road before leaving the house so I could eat them. > > > > – > > [http://dreev.es](http://dreev.es) – search://“Daniel Reeves” > > Follow the Yellow Brick Road – [http://beeminder.com](http://beeminder.com) ---
**Author:** ![dreev](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.beeminder.com/dreev/32/4311_2.png) [@dreev](https://forum.beeminder.com/u/dreev)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2012, 1:27am UTC](https://forum.beeminder.com/t/skating-the-edge-of-my-weight-road/1371/4 "2012-06-28T01:27:46Z")
Ha, yes, but if I had the self-discipline to not skate the top edge of my yellow brick road then I wouldn’t need Beeminder! We actually love seeing graphs where the person is often in the wrong lane, with frequent emergency days. That’s the surest sign that that person would be being distinctly less awesome if it weren’t for Beeminder riding their butt. (Thanks for the nudge on the API; we’re definitely working on it. And there’s a rudimentary version available to anyone who talks to us individually.) On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 1:21 AM, Valerio De Camillis [worthstream@gmail.com](mailto:worthstream@gmail.com) wrote: > You’re using Beeminder in a weird way. That is surprising, since you built > it 😉 > > Yes, you can have the goal of staying below the outer edge of the ybr, but > in this way you’re not using the safety buffer that having a ybr gives you > . > If Beeminder had no yellow brick road, but only a simple line that you must > not cross at any time, you would have no flexibility, no “emergency day” to > fix the state of whatever you’re tracking. And i guess this is why you > introduced the ybr. > > Now, if you consider the outer edge of the road your “do not cross” line, > you’re back to having no flexibility, there is again a point you cannot pass > even for a day, and so on. > If you do start considering the goal line as your target, you would have > started doing “squats and and burpees and things” some days sooner, taking > full advantage of the flexibility you built in the system. > > Anyway, good luck with your weight loss program… and release the APIs! 😉 > > Ciao, > \ Valerio De Camillis > > On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 7:10 AM, Ken Chen [kennchen@gmail.com](mailto:kennchen@gmail.com) wrote: > > > Your body weight is closely correlated with how much water you have in > > your system-- so if you take the measurement at the right time, you’d have a > > lower weight. Of course, this only works once-- but perhaps you could set up > > a “buffer” by maximizing your measured weight at the beginning, so that if > > you have the temptation to “cheat”, you can safely do so once. > > > > On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 4:16 PM, Daniel Reeves [dreeves@beeminder.com](mailto:dreeves@beeminder.com) > > wrote: > > > > > At 9:40 this morning I weighed 71.85 kg (158.4 lb). That was a pound > > > or so above my weight road, [mass – d – beeminder](http://bmndr.com/d/mass) . > > > So I jumped around the house and did squats and and burpees and things > > > until I had sweated out about 2 soda cans’ worth of sweat. > > > Here’s what our scale sent to Beeminder for the hour and half that I > > > repeatedly weighed myself to see if I was on the road yet: > > > > > > 24 71.85 “auto-entered from withings scale at 09:40” > > > 24 72 “auto-entered from withings scale at 09:40” > > > 24 72.05 “auto-entered from withings scale at 09:52” > > > 24 72.05 “auto-entered from withings scale at 09:55” > > > 24 71.85 “auto-entered from withings scale at 10:15” > > > 24 71.85 “auto-entered from withings scale at 10:21” > > > 24 71.95 “auto-entered from withings scale at 10:27” > > > 24 71.75 “auto-entered from withings scale at 10:32” > > > 24 71.85 “auto-entered from withings scale at 10:33” > > > 24 71.9 “auto-entered from withings scale at 10:37” > > > 24 71.9 “auto-entered from withings scale at 10:40” > > > 24 71.85 “auto-entered from withings scale at 10:42” > > > 24 71.65 “auto-entered from withings scale at 10:47” > > > 24 71.4 “auto-entered from withings scale at 10:54” > > > 24 71.55 “auto-entered from withings scale at 10:56” > > > 24 71.4 “auto-entered from withings scale at 11:00” > > > 24 71.55 “auto-entered from withings scale at 11:03” > > > 24 71.5 “auto-entered from withings scale at 11:05” > > > 24 71.25 “auto-entered from withings scale at 11:09” > > > > > > That last one put me back on the yellow brick road, barely. > > > > > > What I’m wondering is if there’s a good rule of thumb for how to game > > > Beeminder like that without endangering one’s health. > > > I’m thinking something like this: > > > > > > 1. Don’t overdress in order to sweat more. You want the side effect > > > of burning a lot of calories. > > > 2. Don’t do this multiple days in a row. Your true weight might be > > > deviating more and more from the road, which means eventually you’ll > > > have to dangerously dehydrate yourself to get back on. > > > 3. Listen to your body. If you feel thirsty, drink. > > > > > > PS: I would’ve just not eaten all day and weighed in again at night > > > but Bethany made chocolate chip muffins so I was pretty motivated to > > > get on my road before leaving the house so I could eat them. > > > > > > – > > > [http://dreev.es](http://dreev.es) – search://“Daniel Reeves” > > > Follow the Yellow Brick Road – [http://beeminder.com](http://beeminder.com) – [http://dreev.es](http://dreev.es) – search://“Daniel Reeves” Follow the Yellow Brick Road – [http://beeminder.com](http://beeminder.com) ---
**Author:** ![Rob\_Felty](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.beeminder.com/rob_felty/32/678_2.png) [@Rob\_Felty](https://forum.beeminder.com/u/Rob_Felty)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2012, 3:54pm UTC](https://forum.beeminder.com/t/skating-the-edge-of-my-weight-road/1371/5 "2012-07-02T15:54:17Z")
Interestingly enough, I think that beeminder can work for both Danny and me. Danny is always going to be doing things at the last minute. If you look at any of the meta beeminder goals, you will see an emergency blog post every week. I on the other hand, tend to make conservative goals, and feel nervous about losing if am not _below_ (or _above_, depending on the type of goal) the yellow brick road. I will probably never lose a goal, because I would probably never construct a goal I didn’t think I could make. So Danny has to find a different way to make money off of me: > **[Beeminder](https://www.beeminder.com/rob/weight)** > > Goal tracking and commitment contracts Rob On Wednesday, June 27, 2012 06:27:46 PM Daniel Reeves wrote: > Ha, yes, but if I had the self-discipline to not skate the top edge of > my yellow brick road then I wouldn’t need Beeminder! We actually love > seeing graphs where the person is often in the wrong lane, with > frequent emergency days. That’s the surest sign that that person would > be being distinctly less awesome if it weren’t for Beeminder riding > their butt. > > (Thanks for the nudge on the API; we’re definitely working on it. And > there’s a rudimentary version available to anyone who talks to us > individually.) > > On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 1:21 AM, Valerio De Camillis > > [worthstream@gmail.com](mailto:worthstream@gmail.com) wrote: > > > You’re using Beeminder in a weird way. That is surprising, since you built > > it 😉 > > > > Yes, you can have the goal of staying below the outer edge of the ybr, but > > in this way you’re not using the safety buffer that having a ybr gives you > > . > > If Beeminder had no yellow brick road, but only a simple line that you > > must > > not cross at any time, you would have no flexibility, no “emergency day” > > to > > fix the state of whatever you’re tracking. And i guess this is why you > > introduced the ybr. > > > > Now, if you consider the outer edge of the road your “do not cross” line, > > you’re back to having no flexibility, there is again a point you cannot > > pass even for a day, and so on. > > If you do start considering the goal line as your target, you would have > > started doing “squats and and burpees and things” some days sooner, taking > > full advantage of the flexibility you built in the system. > > > > Anyway, good luck with your weight loss program… and release the APIs! > > 😉 > > > > Ciao, > > \ Valerio De Camillis > > > > On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 7:10 AM, Ken Chen [kennchen@gmail.com](mailto:kennchen@gmail.com) wrote: > > > > > Your body weight is closely correlated with how much water you have in > > > your system-- so if you take the measurement at the right time, you’d > > > have a lower weight. Of course, this only works once-- but perhaps you > > > could set up a “buffer” by maximizing your measured weight at the > > > beginning, so that if you have the temptation to “cheat”, you can safely > > > do so once. > > > > > > On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 4:16 PM, Daniel Reeves [dreeves@beeminder.com](mailto:dreeves@beeminder.com) > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > At 9:40 this morning I weighed 71.85 kg (158.4 lb). That was a pound > > > > or so above my weight road, [mass – d – beeminder](http://bmndr.com/d/mass) . > > > > So I jumped around the house and did squats and and burpees and things > > > > until I had sweated out about 2 soda cans’ worth of sweat. > > > > Here’s what our scale sent to Beeminder for the hour and half that I > > > > repeatedly weighed myself to see if I was on the road yet: > > > > > > > > 24 71.85 “auto-entered from withings scale at 09:40” > > > > 24 72 “auto-entered from withings scale at 09:40” > > > > 24 72.05 “auto-entered from withings scale at 09:52” > > > > 24 72.05 “auto-entered from withings scale at 09:55” > > > > 24 71.85 “auto-entered from withings scale at 10:15” > > > > 24 71.85 “auto-entered from withings scale at 10:21” > > > > 24 71.95 “auto-entered from withings scale at 10:27” > > > > 24 71.75 “auto-entered from withings scale at 10:32” > > > > 24 71.85 “auto-entered from withings scale at 10:33” > > > > 24 71.9 “auto-entered from withings scale at 10:37” > > > > 24 71.9 “auto-entered from withings scale at 10:40” > > > > 24 71.85 “auto-entered from withings scale at 10:42” > > > > 24 71.65 “auto-entered from withings scale at 10:47” > > > > 24 71.4 “auto-entered from withings scale at 10:54” > > > > 24 71.55 “auto-entered from withings scale at 10:56” > > > > 24 71.4 “auto-entered from withings scale at 11:00” > > > > 24 71.55 “auto-entered from withings scale at 11:03” > > > > 24 71.5 “auto-entered from withings scale at 11:05” > > > > 24 71.25 “auto-entered from withings scale at 11:09” > > > > > > > > That last one put me back on the yellow brick road, barely. > > > > > > > > What I’m wondering is if there’s a good rule of thumb for how to game > > > > Beeminder like that without endangering one’s health. > > > > I’m thinking something like this: > > > > > > > > 1. Don’t overdress in order to sweat more. You want the side effect > > > > of burning a lot of calories. > > > > 2. Don’t do this multiple days in a row. Your true weight might be > > > > deviating more and more from the road, which means eventually you’ll > > > > have to dangerously dehydrate yourself to get back on. > > > > 3. Listen to your body. If you feel thirsty, drink. > > > > > > > > PS: I would’ve just not eaten all day and weighed in again at night > > > > but Bethany made chocolate chip muffins so I was pretty motivated to > > > > get on my road before leaving the house so I could eat them. > > > > > > > > – > > > > [http://dreev.es](http://dreev.es) – search://“Daniel Reeves” > > > > Follow the Yellow Brick Road – [http://beeminder.com](http://beeminder.com) ---
**Author:** ![dreev](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.beeminder.com/dreev/32/4311_2.png) [@dreev](https://forum.beeminder.com/u/dreev)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2012, 5:20pm UTC](https://forum.beeminder.com/t/skating-the-edge-of-my-weight-road/1371/6 "2012-07-02T17:20:27Z")
Ha, funny you should compare us like that! Check out the “Goofus vs Gallant” examples on [pricing – beeminder](http://beeminder.com/money) Excerpt: “If you’re disciplined and self-motivated to reach your goal then Beeminder will be free for you forever. (Beeminder is obviously not targeted at people like you!)” I continue to have to go running or somesuch ever few days to cling to the edge of my weight road. The saner thing to do of course would be to just beemind the workouts directly but this seems to be working surprisingly well and is more exciting. On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 8:54 AM, Robert Felty [robfelty@gmail.com](mailto:robfelty@gmail.com) wrote: > Interestingly enough, I think that beeminder can work for both Danny and me. > Danny is always going to be doing things at the last minute. If you look at > any of the meta beeminder goals, you will see an emergency blog post every > week. I on the other hand, tend to make conservative goals, and feel nervous > about losing if am not _below_ (or _above_, depending on the type of goal) the > yellow brick road. I will probably never lose a goal, because I would probably > never construct a goal I didn’t think I could make. So Danny has to find a > different way to make money off of me: > [weight – rob – beeminder](http://beeminder.com/rob/weight/hist) > > Rob > On Wednesday, June 27, 2012 06:27:46 PM Daniel Reeves wrote: > > > Ha, yes, but if I had the self-discipline to not skate the top edge of > > my yellow brick road then I wouldn’t need Beeminder! We actually love > > seeing graphs where the person is often in the wrong lane, with > > frequent emergency days. That’s the surest sign that that person would > > be being distinctly less awesome if it weren’t for Beeminder riding > > their butt. > > > > (Thanks for the nudge on the API; we’re definitely working on it. And > > there’s a rudimentary version available to anyone who talks to us > > individually.) > > > > On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 1:21 AM, Valerio De Camillis > > > > [worthstream@gmail.com](mailto:worthstream@gmail.com) wrote: > > > > > You’re using Beeminder in a weird way. That is surprising, since you built > > > it 😉 > > > > > > Yes, you can have the goal of staying below the outer edge of the ybr, but > > > in this way you’re not using the safety buffer that having a ybr gives you > > > . > > > If Beeminder had no yellow brick road, but only a simple line that you > > > must > > > not cross at any time, you would have no flexibility, no “emergency day” > > > to > > > fix the state of whatever you’re tracking. And i guess this is why you > > > introduced the ybr. > > > > > > Now, if you consider the outer edge of the road your “do not cross” line, > > > you’re back to having no flexibility, there is again a point you cannot > > > pass even for a day, and so on. > > > If you do start considering the goal line as your target, you would have > > > started doing “squats and and burpees and things” some days sooner, taking > > > full advantage of the flexibility you built in the system. > > > > > > Anyway, good luck with your weight loss program… and release the APIs! > > > 😉 > > > > > > Ciao, > > > \ Valerio De Camillis > > > > > > On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 7:10 AM, Ken Chen [kennchen@gmail.com](mailto:kennchen@gmail.com) wrote: > > > > > > > Your body weight is closely correlated with how much water you have in > > > > your system-- so if you take the measurement at the right time, you’d > > > > have a lower weight. Of course, this only works once-- but perhaps you > > > > could set up a “buffer” by maximizing your measured weight at the > > > > beginning, so that if you have the temptation to “cheat”, you can safely > > > > do so once. > > > > > > > > On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 4:16 PM, Daniel Reeves [dreeves@beeminder.com](mailto:dreeves@beeminder.com) > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > At 9:40 this morning I weighed 71.85 kg (158.4 lb). That was a pound > > > > > or so above my weight road, [mass – d – beeminder](http://bmndr.com/d/mass) . > > > > > So I jumped around the house and did squats and and burpees and things > > > > > until I had sweated out about 2 soda cans’ worth of sweat. > > > > > Here’s what our scale sent to Beeminder for the hour and half that I > > > > > repeatedly weighed myself to see if I was on the road yet: > > > > > > > > > > 24 71.85 “auto-entered from withings scale at 09:40” > > > > > 24 72 “auto-entered from withings scale at 09:40” > > > > > 24 72.05 “auto-entered from withings scale at 09:52” > > > > > 24 72.05 “auto-entered from withings scale at 09:55” > > > > > 24 71.85 “auto-entered from withings scale at 10:15” > > > > > 24 71.85 “auto-entered from withings scale at 10:21” > > > > > 24 71.95 “auto-entered from withings scale at 10:27” > > > > > 24 71.75 “auto-entered from withings scale at 10:32” > > > > > 24 71.85 “auto-entered from withings scale at 10:33” > > > > > 24 71.9 “auto-entered from withings scale at 10:37” > > > > > 24 71.9 “auto-entered from withings scale at 10:40” > > > > > 24 71.85 “auto-entered from withings scale at 10:42” > > > > > 24 71.65 “auto-entered from withings scale at 10:47” > > > > > 24 71.4 “auto-entered from withings scale at 10:54” > > > > > 24 71.55 “auto-entered from withings scale at 10:56” > > > > > 24 71.4 “auto-entered from withings scale at 11:00” > > > > > 24 71.55 “auto-entered from withings scale at 11:03” > > > > > 24 71.5 “auto-entered from withings scale at 11:05” > > > > > 24 71.25 “auto-entered from withings scale at 11:09” > > > > > > > > > > That last one put me back on the yellow brick road, barely. > > > > > > > > > > What I’m wondering is if there’s a good rule of thumb for how to game > > > > > Beeminder like that without endangering one’s health. > > > > > I’m thinking something like this: > > > > > > > > > > 1. Don’t overdress in order to sweat more. You want the side effect > > > > > of burning a lot of calories. > > > > > 2. Don’t do this multiple days in a row. Your true weight might be > > > > > deviating more and more from the road, which means eventually you’ll > > > > > have to dangerously dehydrate yourself to get back on. > > > > > 3. Listen to your body. If you feel thirsty, drink. > > > > > > > > > > PS: I would’ve just not eaten all day and weighed in again at night > > > > > but Bethany made chocolate chip muffins so I was pretty motivated to > > > > > get on my road before leaving the house so I could eat them. > > > > > > > > > > – > > > > > [http://dreev.es](http://dreev.es) – search://“Daniel Reeves” > > > > > Follow the Yellow Brick Road – [http://beeminder.com](http://beeminder.com) – [http://dreev.es](http://dreev.es) – search://“Daniel Reeves” Follow the Yellow Brick Road – [http://beeminder.com](http://beeminder.com) ---
**Author:** ![David\_Reiley](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@David\_Reiley](https://forum.beeminder.com/u/David_Reiley)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2012, 7:30pm UTC](https://forum.beeminder.com/t/skating-the-edge-of-my-weight-road/1371/7 "2012-07-02T19:30:38Z")
Wow, I certainly do not need that kind of excitement in my life… 🙂 David On Jul 2, 2012, at 10:20 AM, Daniel Reeves wrote: > Ha, funny you should compare us like that! Check out the “Goofus vs > Gallant” examples on [pricing – beeminder](http://beeminder.com/money) > Excerpt: “If you’re disciplined and self-motivated to reach your goal > then Beeminder will be free for you forever. (Beeminder is obviously > not targeted at people like you!)” > > I continue to have to go running or somesuch ever few days to cling to > the edge of my weight road. > The saner thing to do of course would be to just beemind the workouts > directly but this seems to be working surprisingly well and is more > exciting. > > On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 8:54 AM, Robert Felty [robfelty@gmail.com](mailto:robfelty@gmail.com) wrote: > > > Interestingly enough, I think that beeminder can work for both Danny and me. > > Danny is always going to be doing things at the last minute. If you look at > > any of the meta beeminder goals, you will see an emergency blog post every > > week. I on the other hand, tend to make conservative goals, and feel nervous > > about losing if am not _below_ (or _above_, depending on the type of goal) the > > yellow brick road. I will probably never lose a goal, because I would probably > > never construct a goal I didn’t think I could make. So Danny has to find a > > different way to make money off of me: > > [weight – rob – beeminder](http://beeminder.com/rob/weight/hist) > > > > Rob > > On Wednesday, June 27, 2012 06:27:46 PM Daniel Reeves wrote: > > > > > Ha, yes, but if I had the self-discipline to not skate the top edge of > > > my yellow brick road then I wouldn’t need Beeminder! We actually love > > > seeing graphs where the person is often in the wrong lane, with > > > frequent emergency days. That’s the surest sign that that person would > > > be being distinctly less awesome if it weren’t for Beeminder riding > > > their butt. > > > > > > (Thanks for the nudge on the API; we’re definitely working on it. And > > > there’s a rudimentary version available to anyone who talks to us > > > individually.) > > > > > > On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 1:21 AM, Valerio De Camillis > > > > > > [worthstream@gmail.com](mailto:worthstream@gmail.com) wrote: > > > > > > > You’re using Beeminder in a weird way. That is surprising, since you built > > > > it 😉 > > > > > > > > Yes, you can have the goal of staying below the outer edge of the ybr, but > > > > in this way you’re not using the safety buffer that having a ybr gives you > > > > . > > > > If Beeminder had no yellow brick road, but only a simple line that you > > > > must > > > > not cross at any time, you would have no flexibility, no “emergency day” > > > > to > > > > fix the state of whatever you’re tracking. And i guess this is why you > > > > introduced the ybr. > > > > > > > > Now, if you consider the outer edge of the road your “do not cross” line, > > > > you’re back to having no flexibility, there is again a point you cannot > > > > pass even for a day, and so on. > > > > If you do start considering the goal line as your target, you would have > > > > started doing “squats and and burpees and things” some days sooner, taking > > > > full advantage of the flexibility you built in the system. > > > > > > > > Anyway, good luck with your weight loss program… and release the APIs! > > > > 😉 > > > > > > > > Ciao, > > > > \ Valerio De Camillis > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 7:10 AM, Ken Chen [kennchen@gmail.com](mailto:kennchen@gmail.com) wrote: > > > > > > > > > Your body weight is closely correlated with how much water you have in > > > > > your system-- so if you take the measurement at the right time, you’d > > > > > have a lower weight. Of course, this only works once-- but perhaps you > > > > > could set up a “buffer” by maximizing your measured weight at the > > > > > beginning, so that if you have the temptation to “cheat”, you can safely > > > > > do so once. > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 4:16 PM, Daniel Reeves [dreeves@beeminder.com](mailto:dreeves@beeminder.com) > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > At 9:40 this morning I weighed 71.85 kg (158.4 lb). That was a pound > > > > > > or so above my weight road, [mass – d – beeminder](http://bmndr.com/d/mass) . > > > > > > So I jumped around the house and did squats and and burpees and things > > > > > > until I had sweated out about 2 soda cans’ worth of sweat. > > > > > > Here’s what our scale sent to Beeminder for the hour and half that I > > > > > > repeatedly weighed myself to see if I was on the road yet: > > > > > > > > > > > > 24 71.85 “auto-entered from withings scale at 09:40” > > > > > > 24 72 “auto-entered from withings scale at 09:40” > > > > > > 24 72.05 “auto-entered from withings scale at 09:52” > > > > > > 24 72.05 “auto-entered from withings scale at 09:55” > > > > > > 24 71.85 “auto-entered from withings scale at 10:15” > > > > > > 24 71.85 “auto-entered from withings scale at 10:21” > > > > > > 24 71.95 “auto-entered from withings scale at 10:27” > > > > > > 24 71.75 “auto-entered from withings scale at 10:32” > > > > > > 24 71.85 “auto-entered from withings scale at 10:33” > > > > > > 24 71.9 “auto-entered from withings scale at 10:37” > > > > > > 24 71.9 “auto-entered from withings scale at 10:40” > > > > > > 24 71.85 “auto-entered from withings scale at 10:42” > > > > > > 24 71.65 “auto-entered from withings scale at 10:47” > > > > > > 24 71.4 “auto-entered from withings scale at 10:54” > > > > > > 24 71.55 “auto-entered from withings scale at 10:56” > > > > > > 24 71.4 “auto-entered from withings scale at 11:00” > > > > > > 24 71.55 “auto-entered from withings scale at 11:03” > > > > > > 24 71.5 “auto-entered from withings scale at 11:05” > > > > > > 24 71.25 “auto-entered from withings scale at 11:09” > > > > > > > > > > > > That last one put me back on the yellow brick road, barely. > > > > > > > > > > > > What I’m wondering is if there’s a good rule of thumb for how to game > > > > > > Beeminder like that without endangering one’s health. > > > > > > I’m thinking something like this: > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Don’t overdress in order to sweat more. You want the side effect > > > > > > of burning a lot of calories. > > > > > > 2. Don’t do this multiple days in a row. Your true weight might be > > > > > > deviating more and more from the road, which means eventually you’ll > > > > > > have to dangerously dehydrate yourself to get back on. > > > > > > 3. Listen to your body. If you feel thirsty, drink. > > > > > > > > > > > > PS: I would’ve just not eaten all day and weighed in again at night > > > > > > but Bethany made chocolate chip muffins so I was pretty motivated to > > > > > > get on my road before leaving the house so I could eat them. > > > > > > > > > > > > – > > > > > > [http://dreev.es](http://dreev.es) – search://“Daniel Reeves” > > > > > > Follow the Yellow Brick Road – [http://beeminder.com](http://beeminder.com) > > – > [http://dreev.es](http://dreev.es) – search://“Daniel Reeves” > Follow the Yellow Brick Road – [http://beeminder.com](http://beeminder.com) – My home page: [http://www.davidreiley.com](http://www.davidreiley.com) ---
**Author:** ![dreev](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.beeminder.com/dreev/32/4311_2.png) [@dreev](https://forum.beeminder.com/u/dreev)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2012, 7:34pm UTC](https://forum.beeminder.com/t/skating-the-edge-of-my-weight-road/1371/8 "2012-07-02T19:34:20Z")
That should make all the more incentive to stay safely below your weight road! On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 12:30 PM, David Reiley [david@davidreiley.com](mailto:david@davidreiley.com) wrote: > Wow, I certainly do not need that kind of excitement in my life… 🙂 > > David > > On Jul 2, 2012, at 10:20 AM, Daniel Reeves wrote: > > Ha, funny you should compare us like that! Check out the “Goofus vs > Gallant” examples on [pricing – beeminder](http://beeminder.com/money) > Excerpt: “If you’re disciplined and self-motivated to reach your goal > then Beeminder will be free for you forever. (Beeminder is obviously > not targeted at people like you!)” > > I continue to have to go running or somesuch ever few days to cling to > the edge of my weight road. > The saner thing to do of course would be to just beemind the workouts > directly but this seems to be working surprisingly well and is more > exciting. > > On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 8:54 AM, Robert Felty [robfelty@gmail.com](mailto:robfelty@gmail.com) wrote: > > Interestingly enough, I think that beeminder can work for both Danny and me. > > Danny is always going to be doing things at the last minute. If you look at > > any of the meta beeminder goals, you will see an emergency blog post every > > week. I on the other hand, tend to make conservative goals, and feel nervous > > about losing if am not _below_ (or _above_, depending on the type of goal) > the > > yellow brick road. I will probably never lose a goal, because I would > probably > > never construct a goal I didn’t think I could make. So Danny has to find a > > different way to make money off of me: > > [weight – rob – beeminder](http://beeminder.com/rob/weight/hist) > > Rob > > On Wednesday, June 27, 2012 06:27:46 PM Daniel Reeves wrote: > > Ha, yes, but if I had the self-discipline to not skate the top edge of > > my yellow brick road then I wouldn’t need Beeminder! We actually love > > seeing graphs where the person is often in the wrong lane, with > > frequent emergency days. That’s the surest sign that that person would > > be being distinctly less awesome if it weren’t for Beeminder riding > > their butt. > > (Thanks for the nudge on the API; we’re definitely working on it. And > > there’s a rudimentary version available to anyone who talks to us > > individually.) > > On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 1:21 AM, Valerio De Camillis > > [worthstream@gmail.com](mailto:worthstream@gmail.com) wrote: > > You’re using Beeminder in a weird way. That is surprising, since you built > > it 😉 > > Yes, you can have the goal of staying below the outer edge of the ybr, but > > in this way you’re not using the safety buffer that having a ybr gives you > > . > > If Beeminder had no yellow brick road, but only a simple line that you > > must > > not cross at any time, you would have no flexibility, no “emergency day” > > to > > fix the state of whatever you’re tracking. And i guess this is why you > > introduced the ybr. > > Now, if you consider the outer edge of the road your “do not cross” line, > > you’re back to having no flexibility, there is again a point you cannot > > pass even for a day, and so on. > > If you do start considering the goal line as your target, you would have > > started doing “squats and and burpees and things” some days sooner, taking > > full advantage of the flexibility you built in the system. > > Anyway, good luck with your weight loss program… and release the APIs! > > 😉 > > Ciao, > > \ Valerio De Camillis > > On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 7:10 AM, Ken Chen [kennchen@gmail.com](mailto:kennchen@gmail.com) wrote: > > Your body weight is closely correlated with how much water you have in > > your system-- so if you take the measurement at the right time, you’d > > have a lower weight. Of course, this only works once-- but perhaps you > > could set up a “buffer” by maximizing your measured weight at the > > beginning, so that if you have the temptation to “cheat”, you can safely > > do so once. > > On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 4:16 PM, Daniel Reeves [dreeves@beeminder.com](mailto:dreeves@beeminder.com) > > wrote: > > At 9:40 this morning I weighed 71.85 kg (158.4 lb). That was a pound > > or so above my weight road, [mass – d – beeminder](http://bmndr.com/d/mass) . > > So I jumped around the house and did squats and and burpees and things > > until I had sweated out about 2 soda cans’ worth of sweat. > > Here’s what our scale sent to Beeminder for the hour and half that I > > repeatedly weighed myself to see if I was on the road yet: > > 24 71.85 “auto-entered from withings scale at 09:40” > > 24 72 “auto-entered from withings scale at 09:40” > > 24 72.05 “auto-entered from withings scale at 09:52” > > 24 72.05 “auto-entered from withings scale at 09:55” > > 24 71.85 “auto-entered from withings scale at 10:15” > > 24 71.85 “auto-entered from withings scale at 10:21” > > 24 71.95 “auto-entered from withings scale at 10:27” > > 24 71.75 “auto-entered from withings scale at 10:32” > > 24 71.85 “auto-entered from withings scale at 10:33” > > 24 71.9 “auto-entered from withings scale at 10:37” > > 24 71.9 “auto-entered from withings scale at 10:40” > > 24 71.85 “auto-entered from withings scale at 10:42” > > 24 71.65 “auto-entered from withings scale at 10:47” > > 24 71.4 “auto-entered from withings scale at 10:54” > > 24 71.55 “auto-entered from withings scale at 10:56” > > 24 71.4 “auto-entered from withings scale at 11:00” > > 24 71.55 “auto-entered from withings scale at 11:03” > > 24 71.5 “auto-entered from withings scale at 11:05” > > 24 71.25 “auto-entered from withings scale at 11:09” > > That last one put me back on the yellow brick road, barely. > > What I’m wondering is if there’s a good rule of thumb for how to game > > Beeminder like that without endangering one’s health. > > I’m thinking something like this: > > 1. Don’t overdress in order to sweat more. You want the side effect > > of burning a lot of calories. > > 1. Don’t do this multiple days in a row. Your true weight might be > > deviating more and more from the road, which means eventually you’ll > > have to dangerously dehydrate yourself to get back on. > > 1. Listen to your body. If you feel thirsty, drink. > > PS: I would’ve just not eaten all day and weighed in again at night > > but Bethany made chocolate chip muffins so I was pretty motivated to > > get on my road before leaving the house so I could eat them. > > – > > [http://dreev.es](http://dreev.es) – search://“Daniel Reeves” > > Follow the Yellow Brick Road – [http://beeminder.com](http://beeminder.com) > > – > [http://dreev.es](http://dreev.es) – search://“Daniel Reeves” > Follow the Yellow Brick Road – [http://beeminder.com](http://beeminder.com) > > – > My home page: [http://www.davidreiley.com](http://www.davidreiley.com) – [http://dreev.es](http://dreev.es) – search://“Daniel Reeves” Follow the Yellow Brick Road – [http://beeminder.com](http://beeminder.com) ---
**Author:** ![Rob\_Felty](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.beeminder.com/rob_felty/32/678_2.png) [@Rob\_Felty](https://forum.beeminder.com/u/Rob_Felty)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2012, 9:58pm UTC](https://forum.beeminder.com/t/skating-the-edge-of-my-weight-road/1371/9 "2012-07-02T21:58:22Z")
But before I created a yellow brick road, I had been thinking about and making some effort at weight loss for several years, to no avail. Actually making a public goal, weighing myself everyday, and watching my graph was hugely motivating. So it is for people like me too! Rob On Monday, July 02, 2012 10:20:27 AM Daniel Reeves wrote: > Ha, funny you should compare us like that! Check out the “Goofus vs > Gallant” examples on [pricing – beeminder](http://beeminder.com/money) > Excerpt: “If you’re disciplined and self-motivated to reach your goal > then Beeminder will be free for you forever. (Beeminder is obviously > not targeted at people like you!)” > > I continue to have to go running or somesuch ever few days to cling to > the edge of my weight road. > The saner thing to do of course would be to just beemind the workouts > directly but this seems to be working surprisingly well and is more > exciting. > > On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 8:54 AM, Robert Felty [robfelty@gmail.com](mailto:robfelty@gmail.com) wrote: > > > Interestingly enough, I think that beeminder can work for both Danny and > > me. Danny is always going to be doing things at the last minute. If you > > look at any of the meta beeminder goals, you will see an emergency blog > > post every week. I on the other hand, tend to make conservative goals, > > and feel nervous about losing if am not _below_ (or _above_, depending on > > the type of goal) the yellow brick road. I will probably never lose a > > goal, because I would probably never construct a goal I didn’t think I > > could make. So Danny has to find a different way to make money off of me: > > [weight – rob – beeminder](http://beeminder.com/rob/weight/hist) > > > > Rob > > > > On Wednesday, June 27, 2012 06:27:46 PM Daniel Reeves wrote: > > > > > Ha, yes, but if I had the self-discipline to not skate the top edge of > > > my yellow brick road then I wouldn’t need Beeminder! We actually love > > > seeing graphs where the person is often in the wrong lane, with > > > frequent emergency days. That’s the surest sign that that person would > > > be being distinctly less awesome if it weren’t for Beeminder riding > > > their butt. > > > > > > (Thanks for the nudge on the API; we’re definitely working on it. And > > > there’s a rudimentary version available to anyone who talks to us > > > individually.) > > > > > > On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 1:21 AM, Valerio De Camillis > > > > > > [worthstream@gmail.com](mailto:worthstream@gmail.com) wrote: > > > > > > > You’re using Beeminder in a weird way. That is surprising, since you > > > > built > > > > it 😉 > > > > > > > > Yes, you can have the goal of staying below the outer edge of the ybr, > > > > but > > > > in this way you’re not using the safety buffer that having a ybr gives > > > > you > > > > . > > > > If Beeminder had no yellow brick road, but only a simple line that you > > > > must > > > > not cross at any time, you would have no flexibility, no “emergency > > > > day” > > > > to > > > > fix the state of whatever you’re tracking. And i guess this is why you > > > > introduced the ybr. > > > > > > > > Now, if you consider the outer edge of the road your “do not cross” > > > > line, > > > > you’re back to having no flexibility, there is again a point you cannot > > > > pass even for a day, and so on. > > > > If you do start considering the goal line as your target, you would > > > > have > > > > started doing “squats and and burpees and things” some days sooner, > > > > taking > > > > full advantage of the flexibility you built in the system. > > > > > > > > Anyway, good luck with your weight loss program… and release the > > > > APIs! > > > > 😉 > > > > > > > > Ciao, > > > > \ Valerio De Camillis > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 7:10 AM, Ken Chen [kennchen@gmail.com](mailto:kennchen@gmail.com) wrote: > > > > > > > > > Your body weight is closely correlated with how much water you have in > > > > > your system-- so if you take the measurement at the right time, you’d > > > > > have a lower weight. Of course, this only works once-- but perhaps you > > > > > could set up a “buffer” by maximizing your measured weight at the > > > > > beginning, so that if you have the temptation to “cheat”, you can > > > > > safely > > > > > do so once. > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 4:16 PM, Daniel Reeves [dreeves@beeminder.com](mailto:dreeves@beeminder.com) > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > At 9:40 this morning I weighed 71.85 kg (158.4 lb). That was a pound > > > > > > or so above my weight road, [mass – d – beeminder](http://bmndr.com/d/mass) . > > > > > > So I jumped around the house and did squats and and burpees and > > > > > > things > > > > > > until I had sweated out about 2 soda cans’ worth of sweat. > > > > > > Here’s what our scale sent to Beeminder for the hour and half that I > > > > > > repeatedly weighed myself to see if I was on the road yet: > > > > > > > > > > > > 24 71.85 “auto-entered from withings scale at 09:40” > > > > > > 24 72 “auto-entered from withings scale at 09:40” > > > > > > 24 72.05 “auto-entered from withings scale at 09:52” > > > > > > 24 72.05 “auto-entered from withings scale at 09:55” > > > > > > 24 71.85 “auto-entered from withings scale at 10:15” > > > > > > 24 71.85 “auto-entered from withings scale at 10:21” > > > > > > 24 71.95 “auto-entered from withings scale at 10:27” > > > > > > 24 71.75 “auto-entered from withings scale at 10:32” > > > > > > 24 71.85 “auto-entered from withings scale at 10:33” > > > > > > 24 71.9 “auto-entered from withings scale at 10:37” > > > > > > 24 71.9 “auto-entered from withings scale at 10:40” > > > > > > 24 71.85 “auto-entered from withings scale at 10:42” > > > > > > 24 71.65 “auto-entered from withings scale at 10:47” > > > > > > 24 71.4 “auto-entered from withings scale at 10:54” > > > > > > 24 71.55 “auto-entered from withings scale at 10:56” > > > > > > 24 71.4 “auto-entered from withings scale at 11:00” > > > > > > 24 71.55 “auto-entered from withings scale at 11:03” > > > > > > 24 71.5 “auto-entered from withings scale at 11:05” > > > > > > 24 71.25 “auto-entered from withings scale at 11:09” > > > > > > > > > > > > That last one put me back on the yellow brick road, barely. > > > > > > > > > > > > What I’m wondering is if there’s a good rule of thumb for how to game > > > > > > Beeminder like that without endangering one’s health. > > > > > > I’m thinking something like this: > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Don’t overdress in order to sweat more. You want the side effect > > > > > > of burning a lot of calories. > > > > > > 2. Don’t do this multiple days in a row. Your true weight might be > > > > > > deviating more and more from the road, which means eventually you’ll > > > > > > have to dangerously dehydrate yourself to get back on. > > > > > > 3. Listen to your body. If you feel thirsty, drink. > > > > > > > > > > > > PS: I would’ve just not eaten all day and weighed in again at night > > > > > > but Bethany made chocolate chip muffins so I was pretty motivated to > > > > > > get on my road before leaving the house so I could eat them. > > > > > > > > > > > > – > > > > > > [http://dreev.es](http://dreev.es) – search://“Daniel Reeves” > > > > > > Follow the Yellow Brick Road – [http://beeminder.com](http://beeminder.com)