In this case, you could still be a winner in the second tier, but in the first tier, a derailment is a derailment!
Agreed. I’ll give our first update early in the coming week, and then regularly (biweekly?) from there. (@hmowilliams has wanted to do that and I hadn’t provided her with the info she needed for that yet.)
I’m a little confused. From the webpage:
And even in the contest, all is not lost if you derail — you’ll end up below the fold in the gallery of survivors and get a lesser prize. But derailing twice at the same pledge level means you’re off the island altogether.
Is “below the fold” the same as “the second tier”? If so, the webpage seems to indicate that multiple derailments prohibit you even from being a winner in the second tier.
Multiple derailments at the same pledge level. The second tier has us following the pledge schedule.
Still confused - what do you mean by “lost-lost”? And why did you need to not continue in order to keep it in the second tier, if that killed its eligibility?
I’m sorry - I still don’t understand about the tiers and pledge levels.
Trying to understand. Here are a few examples:
So say you derail once at $5 and the derailment was not legit. Does that goal now fall into the second tier, since you’ve derailed once? Or is it still in the first tier, since the derailment was not legit?
Say you derailed at $5 and the derailment was legit. Then you derailed again at $5 and the derailment was not legit. What happens? What if the non-legit derailment came first?
You derail at $5, it wasn’t legit, but you increase the pledge to $10 anyway. Then you derail at $10. What happens?
On Jan 1 you had a max pledge of $10 set. Say you derail at $10 twice. What happens?
On Jan 1 you had a max pledge of $10 set. You derail at $10 and lower your pledge to $5, then derail at $5. What happens if:
5a. You’d derailed at $5 last year;
5b. You’d never derailed at $5.
Quick answers to the numbered questions but check out the blog post – http://blog.beeminder.com/survivor – for the official rules!
- Still in 1st tier.
- Still in the 2nd tier.
- Still in the 2nd teir.
Recap: Ultimate survivors are the ones who don’t (legitimately) derail all year. And if you do derail you’re still a quasi-survivor (shown below the fold on beeminder.com/survivor) and get a lesser prize, as long as you follow the pledge schedule. So each derailment has to be at a higher pledge than the last. If you derail after hitting your pledge cap or lowering your pledge then you’ve lost-lost.
Thanks for the detailed answers!
Can you raise your pledge cap after hitting your max pledge so you don’t lose-lose?
An update on the Challenge:
We started with 159 goals.
Still in the top tier: 144
In the second tier: 14
Out: my one sad, little goal
I mean that it’s out. Can’t win. That’s all she wrote.
I’m not sure I understand what you’re asking, but I didn’t continue with the goal after it derailed because it was too difficult given some things that were going on at the same time for me, so I didn’t need to because of the rules or anything, if that’s what you were asking.
If you cap your goal and derail after hitting your pledge cap, you would lose. But yes, if we noticed before it was too late, we’d remind you so you’d have the option to keep it going, but we might very well not notice! We’ll be as helpful as we can, but keeping within the rules of the competition is ultimately up to each player!
These two Survivor goals are still private and should be removed from the competition:
[EDIT by @mary: These goals were in fact set to public by the user and we’re going to be working on fixing something that caused them to show up as private in the Survivor page.]
I’m a little confused. Did anything ever come of this challenge? It said in the blog post that half way through the year there would be an update, but I never got notified of anything and find nothing past January? Is it all dead?
It has survived! And it looks like you have 2 goals that made it. Nice work! Stay tuned for the official results!
We’ve sent various updates in beemails and Twitter but apparently we failed to email the survivors directly so far. But that will happen when we have your prizes!
I’m afraid I didn’t end up picking prizes in July as planned, but not only is it not dead, SO MANY PEOPLE had goals that survived, and the confirmed winners will be announced on January 15th, along with the prizes! And then we’ll get everyone’s addresses and send out the goodies!
(We have to go through many of the roads one-by-one to confirm that they didn’t get easier over the year and that any derailments were not-legit, etc., which is why we can’t just confirm the usernames of the winners today!)
I was inspired by how many people made it through the whole year with their survivor goals! It gave me a boost to keep going on a couple of other goals that were hard, instead of archiving them or making them easier, a few times through the year.
Who says people can’t keep a resolution?!!
As promised, here are the winners and runners up in the Survivor Challenge, as well as the graphs that are out!
Tier 2 Runners Up!
If you think you’re in the wrong category, please let us know and we’ll double check!!
(For complicated reasons, each graph had to be checked manually, and then we had to go through the not-legit emails for the year for all of them, as well as checking a few other things, so it’s entirely possible that one or two got improperly categorized!)
Stay tuned for the prize announcements later this month, after I’ve confirmed availability and delivery information with the suppliers! (I’d hoped we’d get that to you all by today as well, but I’m afraid the task of cross-checking all of the winners turned out to be a bit on the mammoth side!)
I know I’ve said it before, but I just want to re-iterate how psyched I am about all of the graphs that made it all the way through the year. Congrats folks! You really earned the win!
Well, that was tough (the swimming part, – never again!). Can’t wait to get my prize!
There will be a few minor changes to the list of winners above since there were a few goals that were marked as winners who in fact hadn’t won (oops!). We’ll be in touch via email, though, so no need to keep checking back here to see if yours was one of the (tiny handful of) goals that were wrongly categorized. And thanks to the users who pointed out that they weren’t supposed to be in the winning category, allowing us to find bugs in our detection tool!
Ultimate Survivors are going to get a power block to charge their devices, some sticky flag booklets for your analog needs, and some unique stickers to stick wherever they’d like, to show off the survival of their resolution with pride! They’ll also get some premium time! Users who were already premium at the time we took a snapshot earlier this week will see their premium memberships upgraded to the next level for 8 months, and users who aren’t will get a 6-month upgrade to Infinibee. If you’re a Beemium subscriber already, we’ll be giving you your next 3 months for free!
Tier 2 Survivors, those who derailed but still persisted, will each get a 4-month upgrade to the next premium level. (Or a 3-month upgrade to Infinibee, if they weren’t premium members already.) They’ll also get some of our classic Beeminder stickers. These won’t proclaim a Survivor victory, an honour reserved for the Ultimate Survivors but, like your commitments to your resolution goals, these stickers will stand the test of time. (Mine have survived the dishwasher for about 3 years!)
We’ll be in touch with the winners to get your addresses as the time to ship out the goodies approaches.
Thanks for playing along in our little competition, and I hope you’re all geeked up about your resolutions and goals for this year too.