As a source of long-run information, the ping length may not matter.
As a source of beeminder autodata, I wouldn’t want it to be any longer.
Tagtime-fuelled beemergency days are sufficiently beyond my control as it
is. (i.e. I can have a very focussed day on average, but still encounter
the pathological case of getting pinged just as I go to get a drink, etc.)
Yes, it can be annoying to get pinged multiple times in the same minute,
balanced against the annoyance of doing a few hours of solid work without
getting pinged once. I’ve slowly got used to that, and I don’t think I’d
want to adjust it in either direction.
Every now and again I have a pingless stretch of 4+ hours, which is about 5
ping lengths. By implication, a ping-average of 2 hours would have the
occasional stretch of 10-12 hours without a single ping.
I think that I would find a more frequent ping to be less intrusive,
because it would become normal and less disruptive to my current activity
or flow.
Philip
On 26 March 2014 09:47, Valerio De Camillis worthstream@gmail.com wrote:
+1.
I did try TagTime back when it was not configurable, and did stop using it
for exactly this reason. 45 minutes were way too frequent.
In the long run there’s no statistical difference between sampling on an
average of 45 min and, say, 2 hours, but in the second case you can
actually get into flow at work or immerse yourself in a movie or a book for
a reasonable lenght of time.
Ciao,
\ Valerio De Camillis
On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 12:52 AM, Katherine Baxter <
baxter.katherine@gmail.com> wrote:
I’ve been running with 45 minutes for now, but I find it a little
annoying at that frequency. I’m considering increasing the average time
between pings. So, I for one would be frustrated if it wasn’t configurable.
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 3:58 PM, Daniel Reeves dreeves@beeminder.comwrote:
Let me also second Paul’s suggestion that you always respect the first
ping you hear regardless of what device it comes from. That’s
critical.
Bethany’s system clock actually keeps getting annoyingly out of sync
and I keep having her run
sudo ntpdate -u time.apple.com
to fix it. (I know it does that automatically but apparently not often
enough. She should probably cron that to run hourly.)
If we do actually want the gap to be configurable, I love Paul and
Benja’s idea of making all ping schedules synced regardless of gap –
if you have a smaller gap then you’ll just get additional pings in
between. Or if bigger you just will not get some of the pings. But
again, first question is whether we can get away with making it moot
by just making everyone use 45 minutes. I know some people will feel
like it should be configurable on principle but unless someone feels
strongly that 45 minutes doesn’t work for them and some other gap
does, then it would sure make a lot of problems go away to just fix
that parameter.
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 12:25 PM, Braden Shepherdson
braden.shepherdson@gmail.com wrote:
I was confused by this too: my wife’s and my tagtime fire at the same
time,
generally within one second of each other.
Neither of us ever changed the schedule, so it makes sense if we’re
using
the same random seed.
Braden
On Tue Mar 25 2014 at 3:19:13 PM, Bethany M. Soule <
bsoule@beeminder.com>
wrote:
whatwhatwhat? why are they not pinging at the same time?
Ohh yeah, I let the configurable gap in at some point. If you never
changed the gap you’d have the same schedule to begin with. (In our
household all the devices ring out for attention in glorious unison).
Is that something that people change just because they can, or is
there evidence that there’s actual value for it being different than
45 minutes?
B
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 12:07 PM, Paul Crowley ciphergoth@gmail.com
wrote:
On Tuesday, 25 March 2014 19:03:03 UTC, Jolly wrote:
Is this for multiple user tag time use, or single user, multiple
devices
tag time?
We were imagining multiple users, but the algorithm would work just
as
well
in the other instance and that’s probably a far more important use
case.
We
thought of it because it was slightly distracting that every so
often
one of
us would drop out of the conversation to tell our phones what we
were up
to,
but it would be less distracting if we were both doing it at once!
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