beeminding a broken habit

I’ve been using and following Beeminder for about 4 months and just now
figured out what Akratics Anonymous is… anyway. I created a goal to
break a habit, which I would now say is officially broken (haven’t done it
in 2+ months, no particular desire to do it anymore). The “issue” is that
I set the official “success date” for myself as November 1. Every day I’m
entering a zero data point, which is good and successful, but it doesn’t
feel like a big success the way it used to.

Has anybody else gone through this and felt strongly about keeping up with
the beeminding vs. shortening the term & focusing effort elsewhere? I kind
of want to see the thing out, but it just feels like a silly formality at
this point when I could create more useful goals to track.


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You could turn off pessimistic presumptions (it’s in the “terrifyingly
advanced” section of settings) so you don’t have to report zero days, but
leave the goal active in case you resume? Makes it zero effort to maintain
it until the deadline unless you relapse (in which case you should turn the
pessimistic presumptions back on)

On 12 August 2014 07:45, cm cnmiller7@gmail.com wrote:

I’ve been using and following Beeminder for about 4 months and just now
figured out what Akratics Anonymous is… anyway. I created a goal to
break a habit, which I would now say is officially broken (haven’t done it
in 2+ months, no particular desire to do it anymore). The “issue” is that
I set the official “success date” for myself as November 1. Every day I’m
entering a zero data point, which is good and successful, but it doesn’t
feel like a big success the way it used to.

Has anybody else gone through this and felt strongly about keeping up with
the beeminding vs. shortening the term & focusing effort elsewhere? I kind
of want to see the thing out, but it just feels like a silly formality at
this point when I could create more useful goals to track.


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If the goal isn’t serving you any more, just archive it. Or alternatively,
with a do-less goal (as this seems to be), turn off pessimistic presumption
and stop entering data, but know that you’ll have to enter a positive
datapoint if you backslide before November 1.

On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 8:45 AM, cm cnmiller7@gmail.com wrote:

I’ve been using and following Beeminder for about 4 months and just now
figured out what Akratics Anonymous is… anyway. I created a goal to
break a habit, which I would now say is officially broken (haven’t done it
in 2+ months, no particular desire to do it anymore). The “issue” is that
I set the official “success date” for myself as November 1. Every day I’m
entering a zero data point, which is good and successful, but it doesn’t
feel like a big success the way it used to.

Has anybody else gone through this and felt strongly about keeping up with
the beeminding vs. shortening the term & focusing effort elsewhere? I kind
of want to see the thing out, but it just feels like a silly formality at
this point when I could create more useful goals to track.


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I agree with David and Adam (who apparently replied simultaneously;
great minds, etc)! And the official line is that anything outside the
akrasia horizon is totally fine to change your mind about. So go ahead
and move up the goal date to a week from now! (That’s done with the
road dial underneath the graph, just in case you weren’t sure. You
didn’t know about Akratics Anonymous all this time, so… :))

PS: Thanks for mentioning how long it took you to learn about this
forum. Great reminder that we need to tout it more (or its successor,
in the form of a Discourse.org forum which we have all the technical
parts ready for and just need to do some housekeeping before inviting
everyone in (also some strategizing on how to smoothly move everyone
from here to there!)).

On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 10:45 PM, cm cnmiller7@gmail.com wrote:

I’ve been using and following Beeminder for about 4 months and just now
figured out what Akratics Anonymous is… anyway. I created a goal to break
a habit, which I would now say is officially broken (haven’t done it in 2+
months, no particular desire to do it anymore). The “issue” is that I set
the official “success date” for myself as November 1. Every day I’m
entering a zero data point, which is good and successful, but it doesn’t
feel like a big success the way it used to.

Has anybody else gone through this and felt strongly about keeping up with
the beeminding vs. shortening the term & focusing effort elsewhere? I kind
of want to see the thing out, but it just feels like a silly formality at
this point when I could create more useful goals to track.


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Goal tracking + Commitment contracts == http://beeminder.com

Off topic but: I for one will spend a lot more time on here* when you
switch to Discourse, so let’s go! Google groups must be the least-friendly
"community" system going.

  • not here.

On Tuesday, August 12, 2014 8:05:08 AM UTC+2, Daniel Reeves wrote:

I agree with David and Adam (who apparently replied simultaneously;
great minds, etc)! And the official line is that anything outside the
akrasia horizon is totally fine to change your mind about. So go ahead
and move up the goal date to a week from now! (That’s done with the
road dial underneath the graph, just in case you weren’t sure. You
didn’t know about Akratics Anonymous all this time, so… :))

PS: Thanks for mentioning how long it took you to learn about this
forum. Great reminder that we need to tout it more (or its successor,
in the form of a Discourse.org forum which we have all the technical
parts ready for and just need to do some housekeeping before inviting
everyone in (also some strategizing on how to smoothly move everyone
from here to there!)).

On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 10:45 PM, cm <cnmi...@gmail.com <javascript:>>
wrote:

I’ve been using and following Beeminder for about 4 months and just now
figured out what Akratics Anonymous is… anyway. I created a goal to
break
a habit, which I would now say is officially broken (haven’t done it in
2+
months, no particular desire to do it anymore). The “issue” is that I
set
the official “success date” for myself as November 1. Every day I’m
entering a zero data point, which is good and successful, but it doesn’t
feel like a big success the way it used to.

Has anybody else gone through this and felt strongly about keeping up
with
the beeminding vs. shortening the term & focusing effort elsewhere? I
kind
of want to see the thing out, but it just feels like a silly formality
at
this point when I could create more useful goals to track.


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Belated thanks to everyone for their input! I ended up setting the goal to
finish and will be extra-mindful about slipping back down the rabbit hole.
As a bonus, this discussion prompted me to think about some of my other
goals/future goals and whether they were truly valuable for me, or whether
I just wanted to do what I told myself I would. Answer: not valuable,
redefining.

On Thursday, August 14, 2014 7:24:28 AM UTC-7, Aaron Maras wrote:

Off topic but: I for one will spend a lot more time on here* when you
switch to Discourse, so let’s go! Google groups must be the least-friendly
"community" system going.

  • not here.

On Tuesday, August 12, 2014 8:05:08 AM UTC+2, Daniel Reeves wrote:

I agree with David and Adam (who apparently replied simultaneously;
great minds, etc)! And the official line is that anything outside the
akrasia horizon is totally fine to change your mind about. So go ahead
and move up the goal date to a week from now! (That’s done with the
road dial underneath the graph, just in case you weren’t sure. You
didn’t know about Akratics Anonymous all this time, so… :))

PS: Thanks for mentioning how long it took you to learn about this
forum. Great reminder that we need to tout it more (or its successor,
in the form of a Discourse.org forum which we have all the technical
parts ready for and just need to do some housekeeping before inviting
everyone in (also some strategizing on how to smoothly move everyone
from here to there!)).

On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 10:45 PM, cm cnmi...@gmail.com wrote:

I’ve been using and following Beeminder for about 4 months and just now
figured out what Akratics Anonymous is… anyway. I created a goal to
break
a habit, which I would now say is officially broken (haven’t done it in
2+
months, no particular desire to do it anymore). The “issue” is that I
set
the official “success date” for myself as November 1. Every day I’m
entering a zero data point, which is good and successful, but it
doesn’t
feel like a big success the way it used to.

Has anybody else gone through this and felt strongly about keeping up
with
the beeminding vs. shortening the term & focusing effort elsewhere? I
kind
of want to see the thing out, but it just feels like a silly formality
at
this point when I could create more useful goals to track.


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