Death to Pessimistic Presumption, All Hail Auto-Derailing?

[nkmunjal]

@zedmango

This highlights an important usage variation - I almost entirely use Beeminder on Android, and I have homescreen widgets for all my goals, so I never need to “log in” to Beeminder. The goals are right there on my homescreen, and I’m constantly looking at my phone. That makes checking all my goals and entering data easier.

The Android app and widgets are amazing - you can enter data without ever needing to even open a web browser!!! Since opening a web browser is a huge pain and distraction for me, having that option is really key for my Beeminder usage.

I use the app but not as my primary source of input. The widget with its default input is a great idea, I appreciate it!

@johnmarkos

@zedmango

As I understand the proposal, you derail after X days, where X is set by the user per-goal.

That would be fine with me.

I also would be fine with that.

@philip

And that’s probably something that we could distinguish in the UI from goals that are on an emergency day (because of the datapoint values vs the road)

Very interested to see the implementation! Also out of curiosity, independent of data entry derailment and going back to your prior question about the meaning of buffer, how would the new do-less goals sort in dashboards/galleries in this system? Separate them out or use a (PPR or different) back-end mapping of units to days?

[dreev]

@nkmunjal

how would the new do-less goals sort in dashboards/galleries in this system? Separate them out or use a (PPR or different) back-end mapping of units to days?

Important question! It would sort by time-to-derailment and not be separated even though it’s a different kind of beemergency, as @adamwolf astutely put it.

(I’m chewing hard on all this; thank you, everyone!)

[kenoubi]

@zedmango

What are your current goals, then? How often do you typically enter data?

Whoa, that’s a pretty personal question
I have a must-do goal which is daily (well, 6/week) but I have to choose what it is each time, so it would make no sense not to enter data for that daily anyway. I have a goal for going on runs (I run ~3 times a week). Most of my other goals are on pause right now, but in the past I have had 10-12, with most of them either having a weekly rate of 1 or a max safety buffer of a week, so typical data entry cadence is ~weekly. (I sometimes enter more frequently, but it’s less anxiety-producing to know I don’t have to.)