Increasing challenge of goals before akrasia horizon

Hi, All - I submitted a Uservoice inquiry, but thought I’d open it to
discussion here.

I’d like to be able to increase the difficulty of an odometer goal and have
it be effective immediately. I know that by default the change doesn’t go
into effect until after the 1-week period, and I think this makes sense to
do automatically to keep people from weaseling out of goals, but if I’m
trying to make it harder I think it would be great to have an option in a
pop-up prompt that asks if I want the increase to be effective immediately.

To make a clearer case, here’s why I’m interested: I’m a grad student and
have an odometer goal to help me stay on top of reading for class. Every
week I get new assignments and I want to be able to update my ongoing goal
with the total page count I need to have by the next week.

Maybe this is “pro” feature already, I’m not sure.

Thoughts?

First question: Is the Retroratchet button not doing what you need?

Broader issue: We’re actively working on giving you more control over
your yellow brick road. The holy grail, I think, is a generalized road
dial where you can adjust every segment of the yellow brick road –
past and future – with the only constraint being that for the segment
of the road between today and a week from now, you can’t make the road
become any easier. We have some rough notes along these lines at
expost.padm.us/dial if you want to follow along!

On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 11:58 AM, zspaul@gmail.com wrote:

Hi, All - I submitted a Uservoice inquiry, but thought I’d open it to
discussion here.

I’d like to be able to increase the difficulty of an odometer goal and have
it be effective immediately. I know that by default the change doesn’t go
into effect until after the 1-week period, and I think this makes sense to
do automatically to keep people from weaseling out of goals, but if I’m
trying to make it harder I think it would be great to have an option in a
pop-up prompt that asks if I want the increase to be effective immediately.

To make a clearer case, here’s why I’m interested: I’m a grad student and
have an odometer goal to help me stay on top of reading for class. Every
week I get new assignments and I want to be able to update my ongoing goal
with the total page count I need to have by the next week.

Maybe this is “pro” feature already, I’m not sure.

Thoughts?


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Hi
When I’ve retroracheted goals, the safety buffer has been trimmed (it goes
right to the centre of the road), but any steepness increases haven’t been
brought forwards.
My system, in case this is a bug: Firefox 23 on Windows 7. The
RequestPolicy and BettterPrivacy addons that I use sometimes affect these
things.
Thanks for making a fantastic webapp

On Tuesday, September 24, 2013 6:34:16 PM UTC+12, Daniel Reeves wrote:

First question: Is the Retroratchet button not doing what you need?

Broader issue: We’re actively working on giving you more control over
your yellow brick road. The holy grail, I think, is a generalized road
dial where you can adjust every segment of the yellow brick road –
past and future – with the only constraint being that for the segment
of the road between today and a week from now, you can’t make the road
become any easier. We have some rough notes along these lines at
expost.padm.us/dial if you want to follow along!

On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 11:58 AM, <zsp...@gmail.com <javascript:>>
wrote:

Hi, All - I submitted a Uservoice inquiry, but thought I’d open it to
discussion here.

I’d like to be able to increase the difficulty of an odometer goal and
have
it be effective immediately. I know that by default the change doesn’t
go
into effect until after the 1-week period, and I think this makes sense
to
do automatically to keep people from weaseling out of goals, but if I’m
trying to make it harder I think it would be great to have an option in
a
pop-up prompt that asks if I want the increase to be effective
immediately.

To make a clearer case, here’s why I’m interested: I’m a grad student
and
have an odometer goal to help me stay on top of reading for class. Every
week I get new assignments and I want to be able to update my ongoing
goal
with the total page count I need to have by the next week.

Maybe this is “pro” feature already, I’m not sure.

Thoughts?


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I personally would find it more useful to be able to define repeating
patterns, such as different rates for weekdays and weekends. I do agree
this is also a good idea, but I’d suggest building support for simple
recurring patterns first, and then go full-throttle on absolute control.

On Tuesday, September 24, 2013 7:34:16 AM UTC+1, Daniel Reeves wrote:

First question: Is the Retroratchet button not doing what you need?

Broader issue: We’re actively working on giving you more control over
your yellow brick road. The holy grail, I think, is a generalized road
dial where you can adjust every segment of the yellow brick road –
past and future – with the only constraint being that for the segment
of the road between today and a week from now, you can’t make the road
become any easier. We have some rough notes along these lines at
expost.padm.us/dial if you want to follow along!

On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 11:58 AM, <zsp...@gmail.com <javascript:>>
wrote:

Hi, All - I submitted a Uservoice inquiry, but thought I’d open it to
discussion here.

I’d like to be able to increase the difficulty of an odometer goal and
have
it be effective immediately. I know that by default the change doesn’t
go
into effect until after the 1-week period, and I think this makes sense
to
do automatically to keep people from weaseling out of goals, but if I’m
trying to make it harder I think it would be great to have an option in
a
pop-up prompt that asks if I want the increase to be effective
immediately.

To make a clearer case, here’s why I’m interested: I’m a grad student
and
have an odometer goal to help me stay on top of reading for class. Every
week I get new assignments and I want to be able to update my ongoing
goal
with the total page count I need to have by the next week.

Maybe this is “pro” feature already, I’m not sure.

Thoughts?


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Ooh, I would love different rates for weekends and weekdays! I have a “take more breaks at work” goal, and I have to be careful to leave enough buffer on Friday to make it through the weekend.

On Sep 24, 2013, at 7:18 AM, Waldir Pimenta waldir.pimenta@gmail.com wrote:

I personally would find it more useful to be able to define repeating patterns, such as different rates for weekdays and weekends. I do agree this is also a good idea, but I’d suggest building support for simple recurring patterns first, and then go full-throttle on absolute control.

On Tuesday, September 24, 2013 7:34:16 AM UTC+1, Daniel Reeves wrote:

First question: Is the Retroratchet button not doing what you need?

Broader issue: We’re actively working on giving you more control over
your yellow brick road. The holy grail, I think, is a generalized road
dial where you can adjust every segment of the yellow brick road –
past and future – with the only constraint being that for the segment
of the road between today and a week from now, you can’t make the road
become any easier. We have some rough notes along these lines at
expost.padm.us/dial if you want to follow along!

On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 11:58 AM, zsp...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi, All - I submitted a Uservoice inquiry, but thought I’d open it to
discussion here.

I’d like to be able to increase the difficulty of an odometer goal and have
it be effective immediately. I know that by default the change doesn’t go
into effect until after the 1-week period, and I think this makes sense to
do automatically to keep people from weaseling out of goals, but if I’m
trying to make it harder I think it would be great to have an option in a
pop-up prompt that asks if I want the increase to be effective immediately.

To make a clearer case, here’s why I’m interested: I’m a grad student and
have an odometer goal to help me stay on top of reading for class. Every
week I get new assignments and I want to be able to update my ongoing goal
with the total page count I need to have by the next week.

Maybe this is “pro” feature already, I’m not sure.

Thoughts?


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+1 - week vs weekend would be nice (though I suppose it would add
complexity).

I track study pomodoros, aiming to get 50 in each week and to leave
weekends free. Currently I have a “do more” 50/week goal, and I aim to be
in the green by Friday evening, but that leaves me open to a risk of not
being in the green before the weekend, but not derailing either. Then I’m
being bound on “do 50 pomodoros a week” but not on “don’t do any pomodoros
on the weekend”.

On Tuesday, September 24, 2013 2:06:05 PM UTC+2, Katherine Baxter wrote:

Ooh, I would love different rates for weekends and weekdays! I have a
"take more breaks at work" goal, and I have to be careful to leave enough
buffer on Friday to make it through the weekend.

On Sep 24, 2013, at 7:18 AM, Waldir Pimenta <waldir....@gmail.com<javascript:>>
wrote:

I personally would find it more useful to be able to define repeating
patterns, such as different rates for weekdays and weekends. I do agree
this is also a good idea, but I’d suggest building support for simple
recurring patterns first, and then go full-throttle on absolute control.

On Tuesday, September 24, 2013 7:34:16 AM UTC+1, Daniel Reeves wrote:

First question: Is the Retroratchet button not doing what you need?

Broader issue: We’re actively working on giving you more control over
your yellow brick road. The holy grail, I think, is a generalized road
dial where you can adjust every segment of the yellow brick road –
past and future – with the only constraint being that for the segment
of the road between today and a week from now, you can’t make the road
become any easier. We have some rough notes along these lines at
expost.padm.us/dial if you want to follow along!

On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 11:58 AM, zsp...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi, All - I submitted a Uservoice inquiry, but thought I’d open it to
discussion here.

I’d like to be able to increase the difficulty of an odometer goal and
have
it be effective immediately. I know that by default the change doesn’t
go
into effect until after the 1-week period, and I think this makes sense
to
do automatically to keep people from weaseling out of goals, but if I’m
trying to make it harder I think it would be great to have an option in
a
pop-up prompt that asks if I want the increase to be effective
immediately.

To make a clearer case, here’s why I’m interested: I’m a grad student
and
have an odometer goal to help me stay on top of reading for class.
Every
week I get new assignments and I want to be able to update my ongoing
goal
with the total page count I need to have by the next week.

Maybe this is “pro” feature already, I’m not sure.

Thoughts?


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