harsh feedback on new graphs

just got some harsh feedback on the new look of the graphs:
“it looks childish now. Before it was great! Everything looked
right. Now it just looks off. It’s not going to stop me from using
your product though. I don’t know maybe its like when facebook makes a
layout change and everyone bitches and moans about it, but 2 weeks
later they forget and grow to like it.”

Bethany thinks that with a few tweaks it will be definitively better
than the old version, but I thought I’d solicit feedback from you all.


http://dreev.es – search://"Daniel Reeves"
Follow the Yellow Brick Road – http://beeminder.com

Is it just me, or is it not as crisp as before? The fonts look fuzzy, like
there’s some kind of aliasing issue.

On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 12:59 PM, Daniel Reeves dreeves@beeminder.comwrote:

just got some harsh feedback on the new look of the graphs:
“it looks childish now. Before it was great! Everything looked
right. Now it just looks off. It’s not going to stop me from using
your product though. I don’t know maybe its like when facebook makes a
layout change and everyone bitches and moans about it, but 2 weeks
later they forget and grow to like it.”

Bethany thinks that with a few tweaks it will be definitively better
than the old version, but I thought I’d solicit feedback from you all.


http://dreev.es – search://"Daniel Reeves"
Follow the Yellow Brick Road – http://beeminder.com

I think the primary unpleasantness is the speed of rendering / re-rendering.
Is it impractical to put the rendering on the client side?
Javascript’s canvas2d api is pretty much the same as any other vector
graphics api.

Johnicholas

On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 4:02 PM, Isaac Schankler eyesack@gmail.com wrote:

Is it just me, or is it not as crisp as before? The fonts look fuzzy, like
there’s some kind of aliasing issue.

On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 12:59 PM, Daniel Reeves dreeves@beeminder.comwrote:

just got some harsh feedback on the new look of the graphs:
“it looks childish now. Before it was great! Everything looked
right. Now it just looks off. It’s not going to stop me from using
your product though. I don’t know maybe its like when facebook makes a
layout change and everyone bitches and moans about it, but 2 weeks
later they forget and grow to like it.”

Bethany thinks that with a few tweaks it will be definitively better
than the old version, but I thought I’d solicit feedback from you all.


http://dreev.es – search://"Daniel Reeves"
Follow the Yellow Brick Road – http://beeminder.com

Initial thoughts

  • yellow is very hard to see, yellow brick road and days of buffer almost impossible to make out
  • axis and units are easier to read, definite improvement
  • akrasia horizon is easier to read, definite improvement
  • the color of my data points and line look different… Not sure if I like the new colors, but not really sure what they were before
  • it does seem a little washed out or out of focus now. It was very sharp and bright before and now seems dull and muted
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    Subject: harsh feedback on new graphs

just got some harsh feedback on the new look of the graphs:
“it looks childish now. Before it was great! Everything looked
right. Now it just looks off. It’s not going to stop me from using
your product though. I don’t know maybe its like when facebook makes a
layout change and everyone bitches and moans about it, but 2 weeks
later they forget and grow to like it.”

Bethany thinks that with a few tweaks it will be definitively better
than the old version, but I thought I’d solicit feedback from you all.


http://dreev.es – search://"Daniel Reeves"
Follow the Yellow Brick Road – http://beeminder.com

I didn’t even notice that until you said it. Now everytime I reload my graph I see it load from top to bottom. Is that new too?

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Subject: Re: harsh feedback on new graphs

I think the primary unpleasantness is the speed of rendering / re-rendering.
Is it impractical to put the rendering on the client side?
Javascript’s canvas2d api is pretty much the same as any other vector
graphics api.

Johnicholas

On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 4:02 PM, Isaac Schankler eyesack@gmail.com wrote:

Is it just me, or is it not as crisp as before? The fonts look fuzzy, like
there’s some kind of aliasing issue.

On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 12:59 PM, Daniel Reeves dreeves@beeminder.comwrote:

just got some harsh feedback on the new look of the graphs:
“it looks childish now. Before it was great! Everything looked
right. Now it just looks off. It’s not going to stop me from using
your product though. I don’t know maybe its like when facebook makes a
layout change and everyone bitches and moans about it, but 2 weeks
later they forget and grow to like it.”

Bethany thinks that with a few tweaks it will be definitively better
than the old version, but I thought I’d solicit feedback from you all.


http://dreev.es – search://"Daniel Reeves"
Follow the Yellow Brick Road – http://beeminder.com

thanks everyone! we improved the fuzziness slightly [1] and we’re
working on some of the other issues.
keep letting us know what weirdnesses you notice!

danny and bethany

[1] as rob felty pointed out, we were accidentally specifying a
different height/width in the html than the actual image size

On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 13:02, Isaac Schankler eyesack@gmail.com wrote:

Is it just me, or is it not as crisp as before? The fonts look fuzzy, like
there’s some kind of aliasing issue.

On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 12:59 PM, Daniel Reeves dreeves@beeminder.com
wrote:

just got some harsh feedback on the new look of the graphs:
“it looks childish now. Before it was great! Everything looked
right. Now it just looks off. It’s not going to stop me from using
your product though. I don’t know maybe its like when facebook makes a
layout change and everyone bitches and moans about it, but 2 weeks
later they forget and grow to like it.”

Bethany thinks that with a few tweaks it will be definitively better
than the old version, but I thought I’d solicit feedback from you all.


http://dreev.es – search://"Daniel Reeves"
Follow the Yellow Brick Road – http://beeminder.com


http://dreev.es – search://"Daniel Reeves"
Follow the Yellow Brick Road – http://beeminder.com

Has anybody had access to Superbetter
(https://www.superbetter.com/page/faq) yet?

I’d love to try it, but it seems there’s an access code needed until
the start of the public beta…

Alex

I hadn’t heard of Superbetter. My first impression is that it sounds a
little touchy-feely for me but I’ll be happy to be proved wrong!

On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 13:02, Alexander Schwarz miro23@gmail.com wrote:

Has anybody had access to Superbetter
(https://www.superbetter.com/page/faq) yet?

I’d love to try it, but it seems there’s an access code needed until
the start of the public beta…

Alex


http://dreev.es – search://"Daniel Reeves"
Follow the Yellow Brick Road – http://beeminder.com

+1 for client-side plotting in javascript.

flot would work for a quick and dirty solution, but can, in my experience, become frustrating for highly customized plots.

d3.js might be a nice option—while there’s a bit more overhead, it allows for complete control of svg elements. this would also facilitate nice interactive plots (mouseovers on data points, etc.).

-j

On Feb 24, 2012, at 4:11 PM, Jake Jenkins wrote:

I didn’t even notice that until you said it. Now everytime I reload my graph I see it load from top to bottom. Is that new too?
From: Johnicholas Hines johnicholas.hines@gmail.com
Sender: akratics@googlegroups.com
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 16:07:39 -0500
To: akratics@googlegroups.com
ReplyTo: akratics@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: harsh feedback on new graphs

I think the primary unpleasantness is the speed of rendering / re-rendering.
Is it impractical to put the rendering on the client side?
Javascript’s canvas2d api is pretty much the same as any other vector graphics api.

Johnicholas

On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 4:02 PM, Isaac Schankler eyesack@gmail.com wrote:
Is it just me, or is it not as crisp as before? The fonts look fuzzy, like there’s some kind of aliasing issue.

On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 12:59 PM, Daniel Reeves dreeves@beeminder.com wrote:
just got some harsh feedback on the new look of the graphs:
“it looks childish now. Before it was great! Everything looked
right. Now it just looks off. It’s not going to stop me from using
your product though. I don’t know maybe its like when facebook makes a
layout change and everyone bitches and moans about it, but 2 weeks
later they forget and grow to like it.”

Bethany thinks that with a few tweaks it will be definitively better
than the old version, but I thought I’d solicit feedback from you all.


http://dreev.es – search://"Daniel Reeves"
Follow the Yellow Brick Road – http://beeminder.com