Wow, I certainly do not need that kind of excitement in my life… 
David
On Jul 2, 2012, at 10:20 AM, Daniel Reeves wrote:
Ha, funny you should compare us like that! Check out the “Goofus vs
Gallant” examples on pricing – beeminder
Excerpt: “If you’re disciplined and self-motivated to reach your goal
then Beeminder will be free for you forever. (Beeminder is obviously
not targeted at people like you!)”
I continue to have to go running or somesuch ever few days to cling to
the edge of my weight road.
The saner thing to do of course would be to just beemind the workouts
directly but this seems to be working surprisingly well and is more
exciting.
On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 8:54 AM, Robert Felty robfelty@gmail.com wrote:
Interestingly enough, I think that beeminder can work for both Danny and me.
Danny is always going to be doing things at the last minute. If you look at
any of the meta beeminder goals, you will see an emergency blog post every
week. I on the other hand, tend to make conservative goals, and feel nervous
about losing if am not below (or above, depending on the type of goal)
the
yellow brick road. I will probably never lose a goal, because I would
probably
never construct a goal I didn’t think I could make. So Danny has to find a
different way to make money off of me:
weight – rob – beeminder
Rob
On Wednesday, June 27, 2012 06:27:46 PM Daniel Reeves wrote:
Ha, yes, but if I had the self-discipline to not skate the top edge of
my yellow brick road then I wouldn’t need Beeminder! We actually love
seeing graphs where the person is often in the wrong lane, with
frequent emergency days. That’s the surest sign that that person would
be being distinctly less awesome if it weren’t for Beeminder riding
their butt.
(Thanks for the nudge on the API; we’re definitely working on it. And
there’s a rudimentary version available to anyone who talks to us
individually.)
On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 1:21 AM, Valerio De Camillis
worthstream@gmail.com wrote:
You’re using Beeminder in a weird way. That is surprising, since you built
it 
Yes, you can have the goal of staying below the outer edge of the ybr, but
in this way you’re not using the safety buffer that having a ybr gives you
.
If Beeminder had no yellow brick road, but only a simple line that you
must
not cross at any time, you would have no flexibility, no “emergency day”
to
fix the state of whatever you’re tracking. And i guess this is why you
introduced the ybr.
Now, if you consider the outer edge of the road your “do not cross” line,
you’re back to having no flexibility, there is again a point you cannot
pass even for a day, and so on.
If you do start considering the goal line as your target, you would have
started doing “squats and and burpees and things” some days sooner, taking
full advantage of the flexibility you built in the system.
Anyway, good luck with your weight loss program… and release the APIs!

Ciao,
\ Valerio De Camillis
On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 7:10 AM, Ken Chen kennchen@gmail.com wrote:
Your body weight is closely correlated with how much water you have in
your system-- so if you take the measurement at the right time, you’d
have a lower weight. Of course, this only works once-- but perhaps you
could set up a “buffer” by maximizing your measured weight at the
beginning, so that if you have the temptation to “cheat”, you can safely
do so once.
On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 4:16 PM, Daniel Reeves dreeves@beeminder.com
wrote:
At 9:40 this morning I weighed 71.85 kg (158.4 lb). That was a pound
or so above my weight road, mass – d – beeminder .
So I jumped around the house and did squats and and burpees and things
until I had sweated out about 2 soda cans’ worth of sweat.
Here’s what our scale sent to Beeminder for the hour and half that I
repeatedly weighed myself to see if I was on the road yet:
24 71.85 “auto-entered from withings scale at 09:40”
24 72 “auto-entered from withings scale at 09:40”
24 72.05 “auto-entered from withings scale at 09:52”
24 72.05 “auto-entered from withings scale at 09:55”
24 71.85 “auto-entered from withings scale at 10:15”
24 71.85 “auto-entered from withings scale at 10:21”
24 71.95 “auto-entered from withings scale at 10:27”
24 71.75 “auto-entered from withings scale at 10:32”
24 71.85 “auto-entered from withings scale at 10:33”
24 71.9 “auto-entered from withings scale at 10:37”
24 71.9 “auto-entered from withings scale at 10:40”
24 71.85 “auto-entered from withings scale at 10:42”
24 71.65 “auto-entered from withings scale at 10:47”
24 71.4 “auto-entered from withings scale at 10:54”
24 71.55 “auto-entered from withings scale at 10:56”
24 71.4 “auto-entered from withings scale at 11:00”
24 71.55 “auto-entered from withings scale at 11:03”
24 71.5 “auto-entered from withings scale at 11:05”
24 71.25 “auto-entered from withings scale at 11:09”
That last one put me back on the yellow brick road, barely.
What I’m wondering is if there’s a good rule of thumb for how to game
Beeminder like that without endangering one’s health.
I’m thinking something like this:
- Don’t overdress in order to sweat more. You want the side effect
of burning a lot of calories.
- Don’t do this multiple days in a row. Your true weight might be
deviating more and more from the road, which means eventually you’ll
have to dangerously dehydrate yourself to get back on.
- Listen to your body. If you feel thirsty, drink.
PS: I would’ve just not eaten all day and weighed in again at night
but Bethany made chocolate chip muffins so I was pretty motivated to
get on my road before leaving the house so I could eat them.
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