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On Apr 3, 2013, at 7:34 AM, akratics@googlegroups.com wrote:

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we’re ready to launch Beeminder Premium for real [19 Updates]
Dan Arialy and irrational behavior [1 Update]
we’re ready to launch Beeminder Premium for real
Thomas thomasberkhout@gmail.com Apr 02 02:39PM -0700

:slight_smile: I think that one was Andy, and I agree. But if we take your
suggestion, what’s the specific name for the top-tier plan?

With some creativity, you or we can come up with something new, …more
Daniel Reeves dreeves@beeminder.com Apr 02 03:14PM -0700

With some creativity, you or we can come up with something new, right? Just
off the top of my head: Beeyond?

Ha, yeah, the bee puns are almost limitless. Beesty, Beefy, Beeginner …more
David Reiley david@davidreiley.com Apr 02 03:27PM -0700

My reaction to the description of the three plans was that three seemed
like too many, and you’d be better off with two. I wasn’t clear on how the
middle plan was meaningfully different from the …more
Daniel Reeves dreeves@beeminder.com Apr 02 04:33PM -0700

Ha, no, the sneakiest we got was our attempt to first anchor everyone
on gym memberships and lifecoaches so that $40/month would seem
reasonable. Then we actually looked at some numbers and decided …more
Paul Fenwick paul.j.fenwick@gmail.com Apr 03 12:00PM +1100

auto-summing, what function is used to aggregate multiple points on
the same day (eg, min, max, sum, last, first, mean), whether to plot
all points or only the one that counts.
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Paul Fenwick paul.j.fenwick@gmail.com Apr 03 12:06PM +1100

With regards to the smartphone apps, I’d absolutely have them available to
everyone, since that gets people’s feet in the door. However you can have
extra functionality for B+ accounts (widgets only …more
Apneet Jolly jolly@ajollylife.com Apr 03 01:33AM

I’m surprised you have not thought of the most basic one -
#of beeminder goals you can have? :stuck_out_tongue:
(Looks at his 29 goals and counting…)

BTW- YAY RETRORATCHET :wink:

-Jolly

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Jake Jenkins j2jenkins@gmail.com Apr 02 09:43PM -0400

I would like the ability to maintain a constant safety buffer even if I do
more towards my goal. write now on my do more goals (writing, guitar) when
I feel motivated and log a bunch of hours or …more
Daniel Reeves dreeves@beeminder.com Apr 02 07:57PM -0700

As for total number of goals, our feeling is that as long as you’re adding
pledges on each new one you create (after the first 7 – and your 29 are
grandfathered) then we don’t need to limit you. …more
Paul Fenwick paul.j.fenwick@gmail.com Apr 03 02:13PM +1100

idea a friend just gave us: a partial refund of your derailment if you re-up.
We’re nervous about ideas like that since they mitigate Beeminder’s sting.
And of course that sting is our whole …more
“Bethany M. Soule” bsoule@beeminder.com Apr 02 10:33PM -0700

Wait, are not subscriptions typically auto-renew whether you like it or
not? If credit cards didn’t expire I’m pretty sure I would still be paying
for AOL circa 2004 in Pullman WA, a website about …more
Paul Fenwick paul.j.fenwick@gmail.com Apr 03 04:54PM +1100

for AOL circa 2004 in Pullman WA, a website about historical undergarments
circa 2010 and a hundred other things that seemed worth it for a minute and
then about which I promptly forgot.
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Daniel Reeves dreeves@beeminder.com Apr 02 10:56PM -0700

I think there’s a more fundamental reason Paul is All Wrong:

The whole point of paying for N>1 month is that you get a big discount
by committing for the whole N months. So we don’t auto-cancel …more
Paul Fenwick paul.j.fenwick@gmail.com Apr 03 04:56PM +1100

Oh, I should have said that you want to think about what to do about
people wanting to game the premium levels. Do you suspend people’s
custom goals if they drop below Bee Lite? Do you get people to …more
Paul Fenwick paul.j.fenwick@gmail.com Apr 03 05:27PM +1100

I think there’s a more fundamental reason Paul is All Wrong:

o_O??

I think it’s pretty clear that my words are being interpreted in a
different fashion to that in which they were intended. …more
Paul Fenwick paul.j.fenwick@gmail.com Apr 03 05:32PM +1100

Also, on a brainstorming note, other things which you might want to
consider for paid subscriptions are things for stats/data nerds.
Things like the turquoise swash, skinny purple line, CSV …more
Daniel Reeves dreeves@beeminder.com Apr 03 12:53AM -0700

o_O??

No, sorry, I was just piling on. :slight_smile: I do see what you mean, and we do
need to explain auto-canceling, and we’re definitely glad you pointed
out that there are multiple possible …more
David Yang david.g.yang@gmail.com Apr 03 07:17AM -0400

Have only skimmed thread but agree that auto pause is confusing.
Better to just go with people’s default that it will be auto renew and
since you’re cust svc is good, super easy to cancel.
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Allison Nelson allison.nelson13@gmail.com Apr 03 08:01AM -0400

I agree with Paul on the point of the smartphone apps being available to
everyone. I know one of the reasons I have been using Beeminder so
consistently is that the mobile app makes it easy to input …more
Dan Arialy and irrational behavior
Paul Fenwick paul.j.fenwick@gmail.com Apr 03 02:47PM +1100

I sure am. I’ve also been trolling the message boards with memes. :slight_smile:

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