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Weekend Only Goals


#1

I have seen a lot of posts about changing goals to allow for weekends off. What about weekend only goals or goals where the commitment is different for the weekend? I can think of lots of things I have little or no time to do on weekdays and much more time to do on weekends.

For example, you might have a goal to reduce the amount of coffee or alcohol you drink. You want to limit yourself to 1 drink per day during the week and 3 per day on the weekends. An alternative could be to limit yourself to 3 drinks for the entire weekend and 0 during the week. More than 3 per weekend or 1 on any weekday would result in derailing. Is there a way to do this?

You could add up what you want to commit to during the 5 weekdays and 2 weekend days and make this number a weekly goal. I have tried something like this, but it still allows me to skip days during the week and catch up on the weekend or vice versa.

This brings up a related question: is there any way to set up a “Do more” or “Do less” daily goal so that there is a maximum or minimum amount? This could be used to prevent “catch-up days” and instead reinforce a consistent daily habit.


#2

I have been trying to do something similar, but have not found a way yet. I signed up for the Premium plan to auto ratchet, but that s not a solution in practice, and is weirdly implemented for do-less. So I’d really love something like this!


#3

For the daily limit in your “related” question, yes, you can auto-ratchet with the premium plan.

I am still unclear about the accuracy of the units, though: the interface says “auto ratchet to have only X days margin at most”, using “days” regardless of the unit used to track the goals, and I do not know of it actually means “days” (by interpolating the weekly rate), or if it means “units” - and if the former, I am not aware of a way to set the auto-ratchet in units rather than days.

@bee, could you clarify, please? Thanks :slight_smile:


#4

Since this is now the second thread about this, I’m thinking maybe we should actually implement it! For now if you email support with a specific goal and weekend rate, we can update it manually for you, but consider this bumped in priority.


#5

Brilliant, thanks @apb for the update! Give a shout if we can help, maybe beta testing or clarifying or anything.
Cheers


#6

Fwiw, ime the autoratchet does in fact use days until derailing, not units.


#7

it does use units for do-less! sounds like we need to go double-check for wording consistency :slight_smile:


#8

Ah, thanks for confirming, @chelsea, I was wondering if I had hallucinated … Pfew! My sanity is restored, and my hopes are up for seeing this UVI :slight_smile: Thanks!


#9

I’d like to be able to pick arbitrary days of the week off. I want some goals to be only on work days and some days only on days off - and I work part time.

I’m sure I could rig something up with the API, but I don’t have enough time to get that far down my priority list of things to do.


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#10

Another vote for weekend-only goals, I have a side-project that I want to work on weekends but because of daily rates the graph ends up being demotivating.

Temporary solution : calculate the weekend rate myself (based on the current daily rate) and manually setup breaks for the new couple of weeks.


#11

I don’t understand this - why not just set it up as a weekly rate?


#12

@jucor

You can use the “skatesum” aggday method for this - it won’t let you build up a buffer.


#13

It’s already like that and the main line of the graph doesn’t represent the actual planning of the project. Which messes up my thinking of when I have to do work towards the goal and how much buffer I need to have.


#14

Check out https://blog.beeminder.com/chunky/

Get above your road when you do the chunk of work, then coast for a while till you’re in danger and then do your next chunk.

I’m not sure I understand - what’s the actual planning and what do you want it to look like?


#15

So before the akrasia line is the old state, afterwards is the new rate with breaks from monday to friday


#16

I don’t want to do that mental calculating stuff. I want the graph to tell me what my commitment actually is: progress on weekends, get it of my mind on weekdays :wink:


#17

Some other possibilities are:

  1. Set up a constant rate goal and make progress on weekends until the goal says you don’t need to do any work for 6 days, then get it out of your mind on weekdays. Then you don’t need to do any calculating, just check how much buffer the goal says you have.

  2. Set up a constant rate goal where the constant rate is equal to what it should be on weekends, then automate something where it sends a data point on weekdays. So if you want to do 6 hours every weekend, set your rate to 3/day and automate a 3 data point every weekday.

  3. Like 2, but instead of automating it, just manually enter a 3 in every weekday.


#18
  1. is what doesn’t work for me because i’ve been conditioned to work on stuff that are on the red or very close to that
    2 and 3 can’t be done because this a RescueTime goal so I would need to enter false data

Thank you for the suggestions :slight_smile:


#19
  1. Well you would still only start working on it when it’s in the red, you’d just have to remember to work on it until you had 6 days buffer.

2, 3. Can’t you enter manual data on rescuetime goals as well?


#20

As I wrote earlier, I don’t want to remember. I need Beeminder to work for me, not me to work for beeminder :smiley:

Not sure, some automations overwrite manual data
And if entered it in RT, i would mess my “productive hours” goal :wink: